SailNet Community banner

1 - 20 of 133 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
Hi Ray, I have just purchased Hull #1, 42' centre cockpit. We are excited about completing her as she was neber finished on the inside.
Lew
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Fraser 41 CC

I purchased a Fraser 41, 1977 vintage in Vancouver BC a year ago - sailed across to Vancouver Island in 25 knots N.W. and my wife on helm actually loved the boat. All old electronics have now been replaced. Various upgrades to sails, running rigging - installed new propane system etc. etc.
Boat is built extremely well, Glass work is exceptional, surveyed out really well structurally at 33 years and counting. This is a boat you can take anywhere in comfort. Sails well in light airs as well. Some cosmetics to do now but what a boat! Isuzu 53 hp is plenty. Installed new house batts and a Balmer 110 amp alternator and smart regulator - works great. Many years of good boating to be done. Radar is next. Good luck with yours!
S.V. Rain Wolf.
 

·
the pointy end is the bow
Joined
·
6,265 Posts
Discussion Starter #4 (Edited)
I purchased a Fraser 41, 1977 vintage in Vancouver BC a year ago - sailed across to Vancouver Island in 25 knots N.W. and my wife on helm actually loved the boat. All old electronics have now been replaced. Various upgrades to sails, running rigging - installed new propane system etc. etc.
Boat is built extremely well, Glass work is exceptional, surveyed out really well structurally at 33 years and counting. This is a boat you can take anywhere in comfort. Sails well in light airs as well. Some cosmetics to do now but what a boat! Isuzu 53 hp is plenty. Installed new house batts and a Balmer 110 amp alternator and smart regulator - works great. Many years of good boating to be done. Radar is next. Good luck with yours!
S.V. Rain Wolf.
We've met around a half dozen up in B.C. now. We saw two in Garden Bay, Pender Harbor and we met an owner finished 41 named Shellback at NewCastle Island. The owners are long time members of the Blue Water Cruising Association up there (IIRC) and Shellback is their second Fraser. They finished a Fraser 30 and cruised it back in the late 70's. When they came home, they met a Fraser 41 sailing the other way and the wife asked the husband "what kind of boat is that?" He said "a Fraser 41." She said, "that's our next boat." They bought a bare hull and finished it off themselves. IIRC, it took them 7 years and they were kind enough to crack open their photo album and show us the pictures of their progress. I really admire the sweat equity that folks will put into their dreams. I don't know that I have what it takes to do that.

So Rain Wolf, where are you tied up?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
Me and my wife are the owners of a centre cockpit Fraser 42 for over 8 years that we call home. Her name is Curtsy since she was launsed in 1978, and she is located in Pender Harbour. Al we know about her is names of privious owners that we tried to contact without any luck. Any one that knows more about her please let me know.
Over the years basical all her systems have been replaced and new equipment has been added. Last thing before we take off that needs to be done this year is replacing all rigging and sails and install roller furlings for Head and stay sails.

Thanks for your interest,

Bert
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Fraser owners - 41

Hi Ray - sorry for delay - been a busy year or so.
We are moored in Ladysmith BC at the LMS docks.
Hope to see you on the water some day
Cheers
S.V. Rain Wolf
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
Fraser 42 - Full Sail

Hi There, Yes I have a Fraser 42 - Full Sail. Now berthed in Gulf Harbour, New Zealand. I have owned her for about 15 years now - A wonderful boat, very sea kind and comfortable.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
17 Posts
I'm a prospective Fraser 41 or 42 buyer and would like to see one and talk to the owners. I've been searching for the best offshore cruiser I can get with a budget under 100k and I recently was pointed toward the Fraser 41/42. There is not a lot of info available online. I was really hoping for an owners group forum like some of the more popular boats have. If you live in BC or Washington state and would like to show off your boat I'd gladly make the drive and buy lunch.

Thanks
Doug
Surrey,BC
 

·
the pointy end is the bow
Joined
·
6,265 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
Tinpusher,

I ran into the same problem. Part of the reason is that most of the boats were owner finished, so the quality of the finish really varies from boat to boat. We've bumped into several folks who have already been blue water cruising and they have each praised the Fraser as a solid boat.

Kiwi,
I met the man who built your boat. He rowed over to our boat up in Desolation Sound and told me the story of how "Full Sail" came about and how the DeKleer brothers started building their own version of "Full Sail" which became the Fraser 41.
 

·
Senior Member
Joined
·
19,489 Posts
..... He rowed over to our boat up in Desolation Sound and told me the story of how "Full Sail" came about and how the DeKleer brothers started building their own version of "Full Sail" which became the Fraser 41.
Ray.. do you know the designer of record for the Fraser boats, then? I seem to recall that the first was designed by an airline pilot..

FWIW Sailboatdata.com credits a David Cook with the design of the F51, which looks like a big sister..
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
17 Posts
Faster, I think you meant Douglas Cook. The name is stuck in my head because it is the same as my own. Is that a sign as to what boat I am destined to get or what? Sailboatdata.com also lists the first 41 as being built in 1979 with owners on this thread reporting as far back as 1977. Maybe it is David Cook and another saiboatdata.com error.

erps, One of you owners should actually start a forum with real facts, ie hull numbers, year built, previous names, where currently moored, common issues....etc. It would be a great way to share information. La Connor is just down I5 from me and I'd love to see her if you don't mind me asking.
 

·
Senior Member
Joined
·
19,489 Posts

·
the pointy end is the bow
Joined
·
6,265 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
Ray.. do you know the designer of record for the Fraser boats, then? I seem to recall that the first was designed by an airline pilot..


This is the story I heard. An airline pilot designed what he thought would be the perfect sailboat. He built a mold and laid up three boats, one for him and two others for friends. This may have been in the late 60's or early 70's. The DeKleer brothers got the hull mold. Aire and his brother laid up hulls and then sold them to owners to finish them up. Aire and his brother also laid up some Bristol Channel Cutters and some Endurance 35's and three of the Fraser 51's. Aire said the lay up they did on their hulls was robust by today's standards. He was very proud at how strong their boats were. He said that in the big Cabo storm in the early 80's, several boats were washed up on the beach and destroyed. Three boats were salvageable. A steel boat owned by some famous French cruiser, a DeKleer Built Bristol Channel Cutter and a DeKleer built Endurance 35. They pushed the Endurance off the beach with a bulldozer. It was sailed up by the owner and refurbished. The owner of the boat confirmed this account on another sailing website.

Anyway, the way I understand it is that the Frasers the DeKleers were building way back were the Fraser 42's, which was a center cockpit boat. Now along comes a fellow named Roy (can't remember last) He liked the 42 hull. He didn't care for the center cockpit top through. He bought a hull from the DeKleers. He went over to Spencer Yachts and bought an aft cockpit top from them and married up a Spencer top to a DeKleer Hull and made the first aft cockpit Fraser. The DeKleer brothers heard what he was up to and came to take a look at Roy's boat. They liked it. They took some measurements and molded their own aft cockpit top. They reversed the transom on their 42 hull, making their new boat a 41 footer. The Fraser 41 was born.

Roy and his wife went cruising on their first aft cockpit boat named "Full Sail" They got down south and learned that a grand child had been born back home in British Columbia. Mrs. Roy didn't want to miss her grand child growing up, so they quit cruising and sold their boat and went back home. A couple years ago Roy told me that he had heard that Full Sail was still down in Australia or New Zealand.

Now some of the information I got on the airline pilot designer came from a fellow who emailed me and said he was a son to one of the pilots involved in the building of the first three Fraser hulls. He was unaware of Roy and "Full Sail" I don't remember that guy's name now.

Aire DeKleer was still alive a few years ago. He still had files on all his boats and said if I had a hull number, he could pull the file on that particular boat. He was a snowbird when I talked to him last, wintering down south in the states I think, but summering back in British Columbia.

Tin Pusher. You're welcome to come down and take a look at Nikko. You may need to get your post count up to ten on sailnet so you can send and receive private messages. I'll try sending a PM now so you'll have my email address.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
Tinpusher,

I ran into the same problem. Part of the reason is that most of the boats were owner finished, so the quality of the finish really varies from boat to boat. We've bumped into several folks who have already been blue water cruising and they have each praised the Fraser as a solid boat.

Kiwi,
I met the man who built your boat. He rowed over to our boat up in Desolation Sound and told me the story of how "Full Sail" came about and how the DeKleer brothers started building their own version of "Full Sail" which became the Fraser 41.
Hi Ray, Good to hear you met Full Sail's builder. She was sailed over to New Zealand by Peter and Pat Psaila, from Victoria BC. We have also had her offshore with a great trip up to New Caledonia and many local coastal trips. She is a great boat. There is also a Fraser 41 in these waters, Ardmachree and I need to catch up with them.
 

·
the pointy end is the bow
Joined
·
6,265 Posts
Discussion Starter #15
There is also a Fraser 41 in these waters, Ardmachree and I need to catch up with them.
I've emailed Ardmachree a couple of times. She has the same interior finish as our boat.

We developed leaks in two of our chain plates this winter. When we bought the boat, that was an issue that worried me a little, as the way the boat was finished, they couldn't be inspected without ripping some stuff out. I spoke to Aire DeKleer on the phone before purchasing Nikko and asked him to describe how he built the chainplates and described them as pretty much bullet proof. I guess I'll find out this spring when it quits raining and I fix the leaks.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11 Posts
Hi:

Anyone who owns, any idea on the minimum headroom? I am 6'4", looking for a boat with 6'5" minimum. Looks like the same problem as the Corbin 39, mostly owner finished on the inside, so headrooms have to be discussed on a per boat basis as opposed to the design in general.

hboy
 

·
New member
Joined
·
15 Posts
I just bought the Fraser 41 "Cassie" after selling my Longliner/Jig boat. Glad to hear they are so well thought of. It was the best boat I could find for the money, even in today's market.

I would really appreciate it if someone could send me a copy of the cutter rig sail plan or sail dimensions etc. I am preparing to sail it home to Alaska and am looking out for some spare sails.
 
1 - 20 of 133 Posts
Top