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Please delete this post if it violates the rules. I am looking for someone, anyone who has first hand knowledge of installing the Freedom retrofit that hinges the Freedom 21 sailboat carbon fiber mast to facilitate one-person stepping of the mast. Any info directly related to this process would be appreciated. Yes I have searched the net. Yes I have downloaded the simplified installation instructions and component drawings, but I would like to talk to someone who has the parts, knows a source of the parts, or has completed the modifications.
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Freedom made a retrofit, or at least designed it. A simplified explanation is the mast is cut into two parts. The retrofit involves two aluminum tubes, one epoxied into the lower half., the other tube epoxied into the upper part of the mast. When stepping the mast, the upper tube telescopes into the lower section and is still un-stayed.
 

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I have that document. It is helpful but it raises questions. First, I would like to find the actual parts from Freedom, if they were made. The draws would allow the parts to be made but before I would cut the mast I would like to know if it is tapered inside.
 

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Sounds like a lonely quest ... welcome to sailnet just the same
 

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You right, enter Freedom 21 into your browser and you get only 3-4 items. It's sad. Maybe I need to look at other boats. On the bright side, thanks for the welcome!
 

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Hi, I sort of stumbled upon this thread by mistake, but just an fyi - I acquired a freedom 21 with a tabernacle mast this past summer (2016) and we had to basically rebuild the tabernacle so I have a lot of info, photos, and experience about how it all works, what can go wrong, and how to fix. Note, much of the machine work was beyond me (plus did not have the tools or work space), so we hired someone do to it, but I still know what was done and why. So if you are still interested in the hing retrofit and want info, let me know.

Cheers
Jesse
 

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Contact Brewer Cove Haven Marina in Barrington, RI. They have my old Freedom 21 and it had the tabernacle mast. They are looking for a buyer so make it quick!
 

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Old threads never die... just joined the site and saw this thread - really late to the party. If you still want info, I have it. I have the original blueprints from Freedom for the retrofit and had a local shop fabricate it for me from the blueprints. I installed it myself on my F21. Yes, there was some sweat while I was cutting the mast but it all worked out perfectly. Best upgrade I ever did to the boat (I've owned it for about 20 yrs). Got tired of my neighbors avoiding me every spring because they were worried I would ask for help raising the mast. Robb
 

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Robb,
This "old threads never die" thing is interesting. Were your blueprints in the form of a letter from Nick Sharp to "Mr. Dwyer"? I have those. What tubing supplier and what alloy did you use? Oh and BTW. My name is Chad (Charles) and I am in RI.
 

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Hi Chad; they're actual blue prints approximately the size of a large poster. There are 3 separate sheets. I called up Freedom back in the day and they sent them to me. Drawings are dated 1989 and I had it fabricated in 2003. All of the specs are on the blue prints so the fabrication shop I used was able to get the right materials. The Aluminum specked was 6061-T6. I took pictures of the blueprints but have to figure out how to post them. (may not be able to yet because I'm a junior member).

Regards, Robb
 

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Please sent those pictures to me! I am tired of struggling with stepping and unstepping the mast on my current 21. The one I had before had the tabernacle and it was wonderful! chad at chad dot rider dot name (yep old geek)
 

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Having owned a 21 in the past was always perplexed as to why Freedom did not make it that way to begin with - in its current configuration - you have a 21 foot boat that has to be kept in a slip - the fin keel makes it tough enough to trailer it - throw in the mast issue and its no more trailerable than a 30 foot boat - its a fun daysailor - but having limited ability to trailer it - it just seems like a bad design for its size.
 

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I know! I love mine and in Narragansett Bay (where it was born) drawing almost 4 feet is not much of a problem as long as empty coves and upriver marinas are not where you hang out. So, that might explain some of the design criteria. For its time it was not speedy, only somewhat sporty. However, give it another foot of draft with the same ballast, some more sail area and now one has a speedy and easy boat! 5 feet would not have been really much more difficult than 4.

I had a nice trailer-sailer before and it was just on the bay as long as one was prepared to reef. It drew 18" and was great fun in coves and rivers. But, it did not relish 20kts from the SSW.

BTW. A Freedom 21 in a slip is pretty annoying. Mine is at a slip right now as I wait for my mooring pennant to be put on. It bounces around, needs to be festooned with fenders, and requires motoring to get in and out. I much prefer my mooring. Catch the launch, ditch the sailcover, raise the main, and toss the pennant. To come in, exactly the reverse. Much better for a quick sail in the afternoon.

Having owned a 21 in the past was always perplexed as to why Freedom did not make it that way to begin with - in its current configuration - you have a 21 foot boat that has to be kept in a slip - the fin keel makes it tough enough to trailer it - throw in the mast issue and its no more trailerable than a 30 foot boat - its a fun daysailor - but having limited ability to trailer it - it just seems like a bad design for its size.
 

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I've got the shoal keel version of the boat so trailering hasn't been a big deal - especially with the tabernacle mast conversion. (Debatable whether the shoal is the best option overall as the boat doesn't point as well as the keel version). That said, I've been getting lazy my old age and shelled out $ for a slip last summer and will again this summer - at least until I sell her.

Regards, Robb
 

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Rob,

I would love to get those plans. I have a line on what is actually the mast from my old 21 (it died a deck delamination death). But, the guy who has it may want to keep it!!

Chad
 

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Rob,

I would love to get those plans. I have a line on what is actually the mast from my old 21 (it died a deck delamination death). But, the guy who has it may want to keep it!!

Chad
Hi Chad; I'll be able to get it to you tomorrow. I decided that the pics I took wouldn't do the job for you so I took the original blueprints in to be scanned. When I get the scan I'll email it over to you and once you have it you can take it to your local reprographics shop so they can print off the blueprints. Once you have the blueprints, you can take them to a fabrication shop as all the specs are on the blueprints.

Regards, Robb
 

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So I got the blueprints scanned and saved in two formats (Jpeg and PDF) Although the PDFs are crisper, I cant post them here so I've attached the Jpegs. These are reduced down because the original scans (which I also have) are 63 megs each times 3 so way too big to send. I can send PDF files via email to anyone who wants them. Chad I'll send the PDF files to you right away. if anyone has questions about the retrofit feel free to ask.

Regards, Robb
 

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