[Psc242]

Do I need to modify the halyard on top of the mast, in order to use it for Asymmetrical Spinnaker? I have the spinnaker with the ATN sleeve. Would it jam with the forestay.
Thanks for the Help.
Jacob Bogatch
KB2C

 

[niftynickers]

Jacob,
You can purchase a spinnaker halyard fitting from Lafiell the manufacturer of your mast for less than $20.00. Its a SS double loop for 2 halyards that mounts to the plate on the top of the mast.You can google La Fiell for their address and phone.I believe that they are in New Mexico.
good luck,
Dianne and Chuck Burke S/V NiftyNickers C37 #139

 

[arisatx]

Jacob,
You can purchase a spinnaker halyard fitting from Lafiell the manufacturer of your mast for less than $20.00. Its a SS double loop for 2 halyards that mounts to the plate on the top of the mast.You can google La Fiell for their address and phone.I believe that they are in New Mexico.
good luck,
Dianne and Chuck Burke S/V NiftyNickers C37 #139

Jacob:
Here is a picture of the plate NiftyNickers spoke of, I took some pics of the stick last time it was down. You can see our Asail block on what would be the port side.

LeFiell is in California, here is their link.

 

[arisatx]

Do I need to modify the halyard on top of the mast, in order to use it for Asymmetrical Spinnaker? I have the spinnaker with the ATN sleeve. Would it jam with the forestay.
Thanks for the Help.
Jacob Bogatch
KB2C

Jacob:
Rereading your original post, to answer your question directly, I think the answer is "yes". The mast head sheaves carry the main halyard, genoa halyard and a spare for possibly a storm trysail (although my rigger advised putting a cheek block about halfway up the mast for the storm trysail - which would allow use even if the mast were to suffer damage - another topic for another post).

So to use your new Asail, I believe you need the mast head fitting with the bails so you can attach a block for your Asail halyard. If you look at the photo carefully, you will see a messenger line where our Asail halyard would normally go. I'd advise you to ask your rigger, but that's how its setup on our PSC37.

 

[arisatx]

A coupla more pictures of the fitting / sheaves.

 

[Psc242]

Thanks for the quick respond and the good info. n/m

n/m

 

[JohnRPollard]

Yeah, the mast-head spinnaker bail is what you want. It will get the spin halyard further forward of the main mast section and help to prevent entanglement. Especially if you plan to use a chutescoop/sock, which are bulky and need some space up the top.

Our boat has LeFiell's single bail version, which works great. But our masthead headstay toggle is tucked in close to the masthead assembly. It looks like the headstay toggle on the 37 protrudes quite a bit further, necessitating the split bail seen on Talisman's masthead.

I wouldn't at all mind having that split bail with a spare spin halyard, or at least a messenger ready to go.

P.S. Arisatx, good thinking to take a photo of the masthead. That will come in handy...

 

[exterra]

Jacob:
Here is a picture of the plate NiftyNickers spoke of, I took some pics of the stick last time it was down. You can see our Asail block on what would be the port side.

LeFiell is in California, here is their link.

Hello. I know this is an old post but the photo and your comments are great. We have something similar to the plate with two bales on top of our mast and are trying to figure out how to use it to rig our new asym spinnaker. It looks like you have a block attached to the bale. Is the halyared from the sheave fed through the block? If so......how do we get the halyard that runs up the mast and out through the sheave into the block? This sounds like a stupid question but we are newcomers to this wonderful sport.

 

[knuterikt]

Hello. I know this is an old post but the photo and your comments are great. We have something similar to the plate with two bales on top of our mast and are trying to figure out how to use it to rig our new asym spinnaker. It looks like you have a block attached to the bale. Is the halyared from the sheave fed through the block? If so......how do we get the halyard that runs up the mast and out through the sheave into the block? This sounds like a stupid question but we are newcomers to this wonderful sport.

If you have internal hallyards you should have (or make) an opening in front of the mast aproximatly 1m (3 feet down the mast).

So the hallyard go into the mast at (or near) the bottom of the mast, inside the mast, exiting the mast at the opening close to the top, through the block at the top down to the deck (this end attaches to the sail)

Picture is better

Closeup of the exits close to the top

Exit close to the deck

 

[exterra]

Hello and thank you for your reply. We are not sure why we would need to exit the halyard further down the mast. Right now it exits a sheave at the top like shown in the replies earlier in this post. What are we missing? Thanks!

 

[arisatx]

Hello. I know this is an old post but the photo and your comments are great. We have something similar to the plate with two bales on top of our mast and are trying to figure out how to use it to rig our new asym spinnaker. It looks like you have a block attached to the bale. Is the halyared from the sheave fed through the block? If so......how do we get the halyard that runs up the mast and out through the sheave into the block? This sounds like a stupid question but we are newcomers to this wonderful sport.

Ex:
Our Asail halyard ran up/down totally outside the mast. The mast head sheaves did not come into play with the assail halyard at all. Does that make sense?

 

[exterra]

Thanks! Yes, that makes sense and is what we will do. We will keep the spare internal halyard for other tasks. The other option of creating an exit for the internal halyard made sense once I figured out that the opening would face upward

 

[knuterikt]

Hello and thank you for your reply. We are not sure why we would need to exit the halyard further down the mast. Right now it exits a sheave at the top like shown in the replies earlier in this post. What are we missing? Thanks!

The purpose of the spinnaker crane / bails is to get the hallyard free of the head sail.

If you take the hallyard out at he top sheave and through a block at the crane you would get a bad lead - giving chafe on the hallyard.

Then it's better to let the hole spinnaker hallyard run outside the mast

 

[exterra]

We will be doing an external halyard for this. Thanks folks for the feedback.

 

[arisatx]

We will be doing an external halyard for this. Thanks folks for the feedback.

Exterra:

Here is a link to the factory rigging diagram that might be helpful. I posted up on Bob Dugan's PSC Owner's Forum:

 

[exterra]

Thanks Ted. That is a very descriptive document.

Pam and Carl
s/v ExTerra