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in a marked channel.

So during the motor up river to get the boat hauled on Saturday, I hit a abandoned, unmarked mooring block that was in the channel.

Where I take my boat out, I have to go up river for 3 miles, with the last 700 yards up a small river that is dredged to 6-8 ft. They mark it with Private buoys. I draw 6 ft, so we go up on a rising tide. I need to go at low tide to get under a bridge further down river.

So I am at the helm and ask the navigator are we good here as I make my turn into the section with the Private Channel Aids. Depth says just over 7.5 feet and chart says the same. We are in the channel, but to one side as another boat it approaching us coming down river.

Bang, boat hits and bounces forward. Were going a little over 4 knots. 4 boats see us do it and yell over are we alright. I quickly try to determine if we hit something or have hard grounded. I look over and see the river bottom, but were are still moving forward at about 2 kts. I quickly turn more into the middle of the channel and then have my navigator take over at the helm and go below to see if anything broke. Can't see any water gushing in, so that is good. Can't tell if there is slow seepage though.

Finish getting to the dock and get the bilge almost totally dry. Tell the yard guys that I may need to get hauled quickly if there is water coming in the boat. They ask why. I told them I hit "something" at the end of the river where it intersects with the other river. I bet you hit that mooring block near the US Nav aid is their response, lot's of folks do. WTF? Everyone knows about it and it isn't marked?

Go back to the boat and don't see notable water in the bilge where the keel bolts are. Feeling better, but still sick to my stomache about the whole thing.

Boat gets hauled and I look at keel and keel/hull joint. Aside from the paint chip at the impact, don't see any evidence of keel joint crack or hull cracks near the keel. Boat is solid glass, 1.5 inches or more thick on that region, so I am hopeful that no damage occurred to the structural integrity. Will do a more thorough inspect next w/e.

Writing a letter to the Harbormaster. I mean seriously if everyone knows it is there, why isn't marked or removed?
 

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re: I hit a &%@#!* abandoned mooring block.....

What's that saying? Never go any faster then you want to hit something? I've had Whole trees, stumps, root balls jammed in the prop, Lost a mooring block. Run aground a few times on the chessy. Have yet to hit something hard. There's a unmarked steel something or other in the river here, quite a few had had to wait for the tide to rise. Then upriver there's a concrete somthing. All the power boaters seem to loose prop and more there. welcome to the club!
 

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re: I hit a &%@#!* abandoned mooring block.....

Wow. I'll bet that caused a few heart-stopping moments.

My sympathies, and I'm glad that damage seemed minimal. You're right to be irritated with the situation.
 

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re: I hit a &%@#!* abandoned mooring block.....

Um, ditto on the bummer's and oh my's.

Now, did you mark it?

I'm betting no - so get off your soap box and get in the dinghy and go mark it.
 

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re: I hit a &%@#!* abandoned mooring block.....

Um, ditto on the bummer's and oh my's.

Now, did you mark it?

I'm betting no - so get off your soap box and get in the dinghy and go mark it.
No, I didn't mark it and I don't have a dinghy, but I did fire off a email/letter to the harbormaster about and would be willing to mark it if I had a means of doing so. I bet other folks that haven't even reported it.
 

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re: I hit a &%@#!* abandoned mooring block.....

Motoring 4+ knots with 6' draft up the side of a channel dredged only to 6-8 feet....
 

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No, I didn't mark it and I don't have a dinghy, but I did fire off a email/letter to the harbormaster about and would be willing to mark it if I had a means of doing so. I bet other folks that haven't even reported it.
Maybe that's why it's not marked. No one else did either, and it's not the harbor masters responsibility.
 

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re: I hit a &%@#!* abandoned mooring block.....

Motoring 4+ knots with 6' draft up the side of a channel dredged only to 6-8 feet....
Your point?

I was in a marked channel at mid tide (8 ft+ of water). Doesn't matter if I was to one side or the other, I was still in the channel. There shouldn't be a abandoned, unmarked block in a marked channel, especially a relatively shallow, narrow one that is maintained. The obstruction is apparently often hit and locals know about it, so it should be at least marked, removed, or the channel routed to avoid it. I have done this trip 4 times previously under the same tide/speed conditions without any issue.

Yeah sh*t happens, but when there is a known hotspot that isn't addressed, that pisses me off.
 

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re: I hit a &%@#!* abandoned mooring block.....

Same thing happened to me.... sorta. We're motoring into Reedville, VA. There is something foul marked on the charts but indicates it lies parallel to the direction we're heading. A big fishing boat is kinda crowding us from behind and swinging wide so I'm not going further out. I reduce speed to about 3 knots to let him pass and all of a sudden we lurch and stop. I slam it into reverse and look at the depths sounder that WAS reading 14 or 15. It's at 4.9 and as I back up it immediately goes to 15 feet.
WTF?

Found out later it was a brick chimney that fell in the water from a building right on the shore's edge. No mark, no black/white float marking the obstruction whatsoever.



We were moving NNE as indicated by the red line.
 

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re: I hit a &%@#!* abandoned mooring block.....

A couple of years ago I hit what I think was the mooring block for a channel buoy on Lake Champlain, stupidly cutting it too close...live and learn. Are you sure it was not a block holding a buoy?
 

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A couple of years ago I hit what I think was the mooring block for a channel buoy on Lake Champlain, stupidly cutting it too close...live and learn. Are you sure it was not a block holding a buoy?
Don't think so. The Gov't Nav Aid (Red Nun) was behind me about 20 yards and I was in line with the first river nav aid, about 50 yards away. No other things were around me for about 10-15 yards.

The instructions given to me for navigating the last portion of the river to the yard was after the last Gov't Nav aide, head to the next/first CAUTION/WHITE Buoy. From there, direct line to the next, etc. until at marina.

I turned about 10 feet after the last Gov't Nav Aid and then headed straight for the first Caution Buoy. I am guessing that had I made the turn only a few feet later than than I did, I would have been fine. Everyone after me coming up river and saw me hit, made a wider turn and had no issues.

Live and learn.
 

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Don't think so. The Gov't Nav Aid (Red Nun) was behind me about 20 yards and I was in line with the first river nav aid, about 50 yards away. No other things were around me for about 10-15 yards.

The instructions given to me for navigating the last portion of the river to the yard was after the last Gov't Nav aide, head to the next/first CAUTION/WHITE Buoy. From there, direct line to the next, etc. until at marina.

I turned about 10 feet after the last Gov't Nav Aid and then headed straight for the first Caution Buoy. I am guessing that had I made the turn only a few feet later than than I did, I would have been fine. Everyone after me coming up river and saw me hit, made a wider turn and had no issues.

Live and learn.
I was also in the channel when I hit the obstruction, surprise. The lake was really low that year. It knocked good chunk out of my hull which was a major pita to grind out and reglass. I wound up having to feather out about 2' around the hole. The hull is 1-1/2 " thick down there. Anyway, there was no leakage in my encapsulated keel so you should probably check for damage if yours is this type hull.
 

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I feel your pain!

A few weeks before the end of the season I was sailing up to Longuissa to meet a few friends.

I was sailing as close hauled as I could, trying to get around Jones Point.



I know I was cutting it close, but the chart and depth sounder were showing 40 feet, so I stayed on my course.

We weren't going that fast, maybe 3 or 4 knots, but man! the sound of my keel hitting that rock reverberated! We barely slowed down and were back into 40 feet immediately. You can see on the chart how quickly the point drops off.

As soon as we got to the anchorage I threw on my scuba tank and inspected the hull. There didn't seem to be any damage: a little scuffing under the keel bulb that's it. I thought I had ducked the bullet.

Of course when I told my friends at the anchorage they were all very aware of that rock. :mad:

I kept an eye on the bilge and there didn't seem to be any more water than usual.

We did notice over the remaining weeks that the bilge pump seemed to be running more frequently but we attributed that to the excessive rain we had this fall.

I have been busy at work so, for the first time ever, I wasn't around when my boat was hauled out. In fact it wasn't until this past weekend that I had the chance to go up and finish my winterizing.

Upon close inspection of the hull I found a pretty significant crack just aft of the keel. It's a "U"-shaped split that follows the contour of the back of the keel. A total of about 10" or so along its length.

Now I just hope that spring comes early enough and warm enough to cure the fiberglass before I launch. :(
 

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DrB -

I don't suppose you would care to narrow down the location of the offending mooring block a bit more than just "New England"?
That might be helpful to those chilly souls in the north.
Putting it on ActiveCaptain might also be appreciated.
 

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Costa Concordia?

Charts outside of commercial channels are often joke books. There are a lot of rocks out there to chart.

But I'm surprised the local marina did think it worthwhile to plant pipe or float just to eliminate possible issues and protect business (people tend to stay away from marinas known to have hazards). Seems like a no-brainer.
 

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Boy, you guys are tough on a guy that didn't do anything wrong. Sounds like he was where he was suppose to be and some "do-gooder" or the marina should have marked that rock off IMHO
 

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Sorry to hear of the hit. I know more than one unmarked obstruction that may be only a foot or two off the bottom. It sure would be nice if someone would mark them. I was at a marina that had a round buoy with the word "rock" on it. Clearly, it was homemade. The notable part was seeing it about 100 feet directly behind a slip with a 50ish foot powerboat in it. Want to bet it was his handwriting? :)

If my keel is slipping along that close to the bottom, I have to assume anything could take up the clear space at any time. Whether an abandon mooring block or just something that floated in yesterday. Comes with the territory.
 
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