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But, I'm stuck in Seattle getting ready for an argument tomorrow, so what the heck.

I've had an inquiry from someone wanting to do our rally in a Catalina 30. He put the question to me of whether I think the boat's up to it. Assuming the boat is properly equipped (huge bbq, etc.), thoughts on taking a Catalina 30 from NY to Bermuda in a rally?

I have my own view, which I'll wait to express until the jury is in.
 

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He was Captain of the Nightingale
Twenty-one days from Clyde in coal
He could smell the flowers of Bermuda in the gale....




(sorry)
 

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Plan the right weather window(s) its possible - is it a standard C-30 or a C-320?

It will just take you longer to get there.. IMHO - Sorry about your stay in Rainy Seattle - when you leave it will be nice and clear again!
 

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I agree with Bubb.
Would also either not be in touch with the fleet or would be holding the fleet up. What's the point? I wouldn't take a Westsail32 on the rally either even though it is much more likely to make a safe passage.
 

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The smallest boat listed at bubb's link is a J109 AFAICT. Cam's point about its ability to keep up is a very valid one.
 

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Not sure if any of the question was directed at me, Dan, but if so I have no first hand experience with a C30. However, my thoughts are less about the boat and more the captain. I guess it all comes down to the offshore experience of the captain. If he is a novice and the boat is not tested and not really built for that purpose, than he needs more "luck" than someone else who has the background/boat.

My opinions.

- CD
 

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the C30 doesn't qualify by any other organized rally that I can find, too short, not robust enough. I could see a couple of newbie's wanting to try it, I can also pretty well dictate the news story about the failed rescue attempt.

Sure it's been done by smaller, badly equipped vessels- but not as a part of a rally where there is some liability on the organizer.

I've sailed a C30 on the Ches. Bay and would not think of taking one blue water for much more than a trip to the Bahama's, in a good weather window and even then it would have to pass a serious inspection first. People own economy boats for a reason; and that reason is usually not because they want to upgrade them to blue water capable.
 

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What is the optimal size boat for a sail of this type? Is it the size of the C30 or the quality of the boat that's getting to be the issue. Just for info, would my pearson 33 be capable?
 

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I sail a C30 and would not consider sailing it to Bermuda. With a good weather window you would almost certainly make it, but if something starts to brewing out there, you are in serious dung. I've sailed my on the open Atlantic in six foot seas with 25 kt winds, and it's none too comfortable. Much more and it get's dicey.

The Pearson 33 would be better, but as far as I know it's a coast cruiser and not suitable for such a voyage.
 

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Loaded question

I owned one, and have also sailed to Bermuda but I did NOT and would not on the C-30. The C-30 is a great boat for it's intended purpose but the course from the NE to Bermuda can get rough, very, very rough.

I sailed it once on a very stoutly built Bud Macintosh designed 50+ foot wooden schooner and we got tossed around like a ping pong ball in a front loader. If it can beat up a 50,000 plus pound vessel imagine what it could do to a C-30.

Can it be done? Yes. Should it be done... well??? This should only be attempted by someone with vast experience and ocean miles this is not a trip for the faint of heart or an "on a whim" sailor who's only ever bay or coastal sailed.

Hell I've delivered a Hunter to Nova Scotia and had it beat up fairly badly in a fall Nor' Westerlies. I will no longer deliver coastal boats to off shore destinations not even teh short jump over to Nova Scotia.. Not because it can't be done, it can, but rather becuause when cabinets and bulkheads don't fit, and are out of whack from rough seas and the resulting hull flex when I arive, the owners tend to blame the captain not the builder.

"What did you do to my boat nothing closes or fits right?" "I kept her on the surface instead of the bottom, you should be happy I was able to reduce sail enough (with only ONE reef point on the main BTW) and get her balanced enough that she did not suffer more structural damage!"

I certainly have the skills and am a HUGE fan of the C-30, for it's intended purpose, but would not do that trip myself in that boat because I know what type of weather can occur between here and there and also how the C-30 handles it.
 

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No. I raced against Catalina 30s and they can get squirrelly in downwind conditions over 25 knots...they just don't have enough "grip". They also feature a vast companionway hatch that is completely unsuitable for offshore work, and there is no easy way to carry enough fuel and water to do the trip.

Everything that makes the C30 the "archetype" of 1980s coastal/inshore production boats militates against them being an offshore boat.

I wouldn't take a Dodge Caravan in a desert rally, either.

EDIT: Wow...everyone's saying pretty well the same thing. That's unusual!
 

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and politely, as well !
 

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Here's the 2008 list for Newport to Bermuda. You'll notice that the venerable CS-36 can play with the big dogs!!;););):D:D:D

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AM 3 </td> <td>Apogee 50 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ANJANEYA </td> <td>Ben First 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ATALANTA </td> <td>Little Harbor 54 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ATTITUDE </td> <td>Beneteau 423 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AVALON </td> <td>Baltic 43 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BANDERA </td> <td>CTM S&S/Hinckley </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BERMUDA OYSTER </td> <td>Oyster 435 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BLUEBIRD </td> <td>Migrant 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BONSPIEL </td> <td>Nordic 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BREEZING UP </td> <td>J 46 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CETACEA </td> <td>Hinckley SW 59 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CHECKMATE </td> <td>Alden 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DAWN TREADER </td> <td>Tartan 37 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DIVA </td> <td>Morris 46 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>EIDER DOWN </td> <td>Apogee 50 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FIDELIS </td> <td>Crealock 37 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FREEDOM </td> <td>Sabre 452 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GEM </td> <td>Najad 380 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GRYF II </td> <td>US 46 Yawl </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>HELDELEINE </td> <td>Pearson 35 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>II BODACIOUS </td> <td>Sabre 402 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ISOLA </td> <td>Baltic 52 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>LAURA B </td> <td>Island Packet 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MENSAE </td> <td>Swan 56 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MOONRACER </td> <td>Little Harbor 60 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>NOSTOS </td> <td>Alden 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>NOVA </td> <td>Swan 56 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>PILGRIM </td> <td>CTM Able 58 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>POESKE </td> <td>Ben First 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SHEARWATER </td> <td>Mason 43 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SHEARWATER </td> <td>Morris 40 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SHEILA R </td> <td>Valiant 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SILHOUETTE </td> <td>Cherubini </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SKY </td> <td>Swan 53 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SPIRIT </td> <td>Morgan 38 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TEMPTRESS </td> <td>IMX 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TENHO </td> <td>Farr 50 Pilothouse </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>THISTLE </td> <td>Hinckley 48 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TIGER TOO </td> <td>CTM 48 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TUCANA </td> <td>Vindo 65 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TWILIGHT </td> <td>Cook 51 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>WHISPER </td> <td>Hinckley 48 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>WILD GOOSE II </td> <td>Jeanneau 40 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AMHAS </td> <td>Class 40 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DRAGON </td> <td>J 120 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DRAGON </td> <td>Class 40 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ESMERALDE </td> <td>Sabre 386 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FREEBIRD </td> <td>Swan 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>KILLUA </td> <td>Aphrodite 101 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>LORA ANN </td> <td>Express 37 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MIREILLE </td> <td>J 120 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>OCEAN WANDERER1 </td> <td>Montevideo 43 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>OFFBEAT </td> <td>J 109 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>PALADIN </td> <td>J 35 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SECOUDON II </td> <td>CS 36 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>THULA </td> <td>Baltic 39 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>VALKYRIE </td> <td>First 40.7 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AQUARIUS </td> <td>Swan 601CR </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BELLA MENTE </td> <td>RP 69 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BLUE YANKEE </td> <td>RP66 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CAPTIVITY </td> <td>CM60 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MAGIC </td> <td>Santa Cruz 52 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MONEYPENNY </td> <td>RP 65 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>NUMBERS </td> <td>IRC 66 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>RAMBLER </td> <td>CTM 90 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ROSEBUD/TEAM DYT </td> <td>STP 65 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SIRENSONG </td> <td>J 133 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SJAMBOK </td> <td>RP 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SNOW LION </td> <td>Ker 50 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SWEET LORRAINE </td> <td>J 145 C </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TENACIOUS </td> <td>First 36.7 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GRYPHON SOLO </td> <td>Open Class 50 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>PRIVATEER </td> <td>Cookson 50 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SPEEDBOAT </td> <td>JuanK 98 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>VO 70 </td> <td>VO 70 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ABIGAIL </td> <td>CTM 52 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ABRACADABRA </td> <td>J 46 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ACTAEA </td> <td>BDA 40 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AFFINITY </td> <td>J 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AKUBRA </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ALEXIS </td> <td>Aerodyne 38 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AMERICAN GIRL </td> <td>X 37 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AURORA </td> <td>Tartan 41 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>AVRA </td> <td>J 120 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BABE </td> <td>Swan 46 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BACCHANAL </td> <td>J 133 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BACCI </td> <td>Swan 53 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BANDANA </td> <td>Swan 47 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BARLEYCORN </td> <td>NYYC Swan 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BARRA </td> <td>Morris 48 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BLACK WATCH </td> <td>CTM 68 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BOMBARDINO </td> <td>Santa Cruz 52 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BRAND NEW DAY </td> <td>J 65 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BUENA RACHA </td> <td>J 145 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CABADY </td> <td>Taylor 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CADENCE </td> <td>Apogee 50 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CARINA </td> <td>CTM 48 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CARINTHIA </td> <td>J 120 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CATAPULT </td> <td>J 122 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CELERITAS </td> <td>NYYC Swan 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CEOL MOR </td> <td>J 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CHALLENGE IV </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CHARISMA </td> <td>SS 57 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CHARLIE V </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CHASSEUR </td> <td>Swan 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CHIPPEWA </td> <td>Swan 68 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CHRISTOPHER DRAGON </td> <td>J 122 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CILISTA </td> <td>J 130 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CLOVER III </td> <td>Swan 56 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CONSPIRACY </td> <td>NYYC Swan 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CRAZY HORSE </td> <td>Frers Comp 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CRESCENDO </td> <td>Swan 44 Mk11 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CYBELE </td> <td>IMX 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CYGNE </td> <td>Swan 46 CB </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>CYGNETTE </td> <td>Swan 441 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DEFIANCE </td> <td>Navy 44 MKII </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DEFIANCE </td> <td>J/V 66 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DELONG SHADOW </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DEVOCEAN </td> <td>Swan 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DOGSLED </td> <td>Kaufman </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DOLPHIN </td> <td>J 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>DONNYBROOK </td> <td>Smith/Lee 73 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>EDEN </td> <td>Swan 65 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>EMILY </td> <td>Nielsen CTM 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FAMILY AFFAIR </td> <td>Tartan 41 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FAT CITY TOO </td> <td>Swan 391 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FINESSE </td> <td>J 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FIRST LIGHT </td> <td>Baltic 55 WK </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FLYING GOOSE </td> <td>Derecktor Ctm 56 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FLYING JENNY VI </td> <td>J 122 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>FURY </td> <td>Baltic 48 DP </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GALADRIEL </td> <td>Swan 46 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GLORY </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GOLD DIGGER </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GRACIE </td> <td>McC&R 69 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GREY GHOST </td> <td>Zaal 38 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>GREY MATTER </td> <td>470E </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>HEXE </td> <td>Frers 80 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>HIGH NOON </td> <td>Tripp 41C </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>HIRO MARU </td> <td>Swan 43 Classic </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>HOKAHEY </td> <td>Santa Cruz 52 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>HONAHLEE </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>HOUND </td> <td>CTM 60 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>JACQUELINE IV </td> <td>Hinckley SW 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>KODIAK </td> <td>Sagamore </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>LINDY </td> <td>Peterson 38 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>LIVELY LADY II </td> <td>Carter 37 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MARIAH </td> <td>J 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MAXINE </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MISCHIEVOUS </td> <td>CTM 65 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MISTY </td> <td>J 40 SD </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MOJOE </td> <td>Serendipity 43 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MOONDANCE </td> <td>Swan 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MORGAN'S GHOST </td> <td>Swan 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>MUTINY </td> <td>Swan 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>NASTY MEDICINE </td> <td>CTM 40 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>NATALIE J </td> <td>N/M 46 C/R </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>NIDA </td> <td>LaCoste 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>NIGHT TRAIN </td> <td>C&C 40 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>NIRVANA </td> <td>80' Maxi </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>PATRIOT </td> <td>J 122 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>PEREGRINE </td> <td>J 120 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>PLENTY </td> <td>Swan 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>PRIM </td> <td>MO Owens Cutter </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>QUEST </td> <td>Cambria 40 CB </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>REINDEER </td> <td>Morris 47 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>RESOLUTE </td> <td>J 44-WK </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>RESOLUTE </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>RICOCHET </td> <td>J 120 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>RIMA2 </td> <td>RP 55 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>RIPPLE </td> <td>J 37 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>RUNAWAY </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SCARAMOUCHE </td> <td>CTM 54 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SCHEMATIC </td> <td>J 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SCREAMING EAGLE </td> <td>J 122 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SELKIE </td> <td>CTM 38 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SERENGETI </td> <td>Tripp 60 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SHOCKWAVE 5 </td> <td>R/P 80 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SINN FEIN </td> <td>Cal 40 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SIREN </td> <td>New York 32 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SLIDE RULE </td> <td>First 44.7 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SOLUTION </td> <td>CTM 50 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>STAMPEDE </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>SWIFT </td> <td>Navy 44 MKI </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TABASCO </td> <td>J 46 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TANGO </td> <td>Aerodyne 43 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TICKET TO RIDE </td> <td>Swan 46 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TRUE </td> <td>J 42 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>UPGRADE </td> <td>Farr 395 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>VAMP </td> <td>J 44 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>WAZIMO </td> <td>Aerodyne 38 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>WESTER TILL </td> <td>CTM A&R 48 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>WESTRAY </td> <td>Concordia Yawl </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>WHIMSICAL OF WIGHT </td> <td>Malo 45 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>WHISPER </td> <td>Canning 48 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>WINDBORN </td> <td>J 120 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>XENOPHON </td> <td>Swan 44 MKII </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>YOYO! </td> <td>First 47.7 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ZARAFFA </td> <td>RP 66 </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>ZEST </td> <td>Hinckley SW 42 </td> <td>
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Pearson 323?? I have a Pearson 323 which has pretty good "numbers". A friend was sailing his Catalina 30 off of Panama City Florida and described the conditions as "very rough". We were out about the ame time and had a great time. I mostly assumed that it was the sailer and not the boat.
 

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I have done that race 11 times and cruised back a number of times and I strongly believe that a 30' coastal cruiser has no place doing it without such extensive refitting that a boat designed for ocean sailing would be cheaper. As mentioned by another poster, the skipper and crew are still the most important part of the equation.

As an interesting side note, more than half a century ago there was a hard and fast size limitation for the Bermuda Race of 35'. A very stout little British boat named Cohoe, skippered by legendary Brit sailor Adelard Coles, wanted to enter the 1950 race. He was so prestigious a sailor that the race committee allowed him to screw on 3' of false bow to make the minimum length. Another boat was allowed to add a fake stern to also make the minimum length. Needless to say, there were many jokes in the sailing world about taking Cohoe's bow and Flying Scotchman's stern and making a new boat out of it. Coles went on to race Cohoe (minus fake bow) across to England after the Bermuda Race. His book about the crossing "North Atlantic - Boat Againts boat over 3000 miles" was a classic of its time.
 

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I think you're a bit biased when it comes to the CS 36T for some reason... :)
 

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Too slow, IMHO. If you hold the arrival party until they arrive, you'll piss off everyone who's been there two days already. If you have the party while they're still 100 miles at sea, you'll piss them off. Why piss anyone off? Tell them, "No".
 
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