[Bruce3966]

I want to add another coat of Pettit Albative paint before I launch the P165this spring. It is a very light boat as you all know...750lbs dry. There are no places aorund me that rent jacks and I even tried the local marina which is really just a small rinky dink place so....I was thinking. Could I just cut about four 2x4's to the height of the rubber side seal that runs around the entire boat which would then hold it up (with carpeting on the 2x4 ends) and then just lower the trailer supports one side at a time (very slowly) and paint that side and then do the other side. I can almost lift the side of the boat with a buddy so it is pretty lite. Would this be a very bad idea?

Forgot to ask, do yout hink a quart would cover the bttom of my 165 for one coat? Doesn't seem like much but not sure how thick/thin this paint is without ever using it before.

 

[DonScribner]

I jack my 4000 lb boat right o the trail. Pull your guides and paint what you can. Put a few 4x4s across the front a- frame and jack the bow. Block and paint. Lower bow and jack the stern. Paint.

 

[Bruce3966]

Good idea and with this lite boat it shoudl work well.

Where in Maine are you located?

 

[krisscross]

Forgot to ask, do yout hink a quart would cover the bttom of my 165 for one coat? Doesn't seem like much but not sure how thick/thin this paint is without ever using it before.

Yes, it should be enough for one good coat, if the surface is smooth.

 

[Minnewaska]

Spent too many years as a kid, jacking family boats up off their trailer, just far enough to get a paint brush under the skids. Used a car floor jack and lots of blocks of wood to reach under the hull.

The rubber side seal you describe, sounds like a rub rail? I would not use that to support the boat. Jack it under the hull, paint what you can, let it dry, lower and re-lift again to continue elsewhere.

These memories could be why I don't paint my hull myself anymore.

 

[SHNOOL]

The idea is fine... I'd add a level of safety to it, by raising the side of the trailer by jacking it up, that you are dropping the trailer support... this will tilt the boat on the opposite side some. Might almost be able to avoid the 2x4s. I did basically the same with a Capri 22, except I used a come along to pull the boat over to the "low" side.

But yeah with that small wing keel the boat essentially just sits on the keel, the bunks are merely balancing points, trick is to force the boat on the keel and 1 balance point.

 

[Delta-T]

1 Qt is plenty. Use a 1/4" nap roller cover and brushing thinner. I would thin that paint 50%. I do my B32 with 2 Qts. Too much paint will build up over the years and you will have to strip it down when it starts to chip from being too thick. I would also use a paint mixer in a drill, the paint is very thick out of the can and you need to mix in the thinner well. Also, use a rag over the open can or lid to keep the thinner from evaporating.

Keep in mind you have a 30 days before the boat needs to hit the water after painting.
I assume you put the boat in the water and keep it there for the summer? If you are removing the boat with the trailer after every use, I'm not sure what paint you would use or even if you need to paint it.

 

[newhaul]

I would not use the 2x4 direct on the hull put a 6x6 pad of scrap ply on top then carpet but I always think worst case and prepare for it. Spread the load a little. Much easier than fixing a 2x4 hole in the hull

 

[Bruce3966]

Thanks everybody and Delta-T, I am keeping it at a slip all summer and I did not know about the 30 days after paint to water--good to know.

So much more too learn here.

 

[MedSailor]

I'm disappointed! From the title of the thread I was sure you were about to suggest something really stupid. Instead your idea sounds just fine.



Medsailor

 

[Classic30]

Any reason you wouldn't simply launch it off the trailer onto a nice patch of grass (like the back yard) heel it over (using a block and tackle tied off to a nearby tree) and paint it there - one side at a time??

That's SOP for Hartley TSs and similar which are much heavier than your lightweight flyer..

 

[Bruce3966]

Hmmm, taking it off the trailer would concern me regarding the keel and the direct weight on it until I was able to heel it over a tad however, not knowing sailboat designs that well I might be wrong in thinking the keel can't take the entire boat weight (even for a minute).

 

[CalebD]

Bruce,
When larger keel boats are put on the hard (boats admittedly much larger and heavier than your Precision 165) they ALWAYS put most of the boat's weight on the keel. Jack stands are used merely to keep the boat in an upright position while the keel takes almost all of the weight.

That said, it is easy enough to find 2 car/auto jacks that you could use to jack up one side at a time. Of course you would use some wood blocks with carpet to protect the hull from the pressure of the jack(s). You really don't need a lot of clearance to get a brush or even a roller in there to paint the hull.

Enjoy! ;-)

 

[Classic30]

Hmmm, taking it off the trailer would concern me regarding the keel and the direct weight on it until I was able to heel it over a tad however, not knowing sailboat designs that well I might be wrong in thinking the keel can't take the entire boat weight (even for a minute).

According to sailboatdata.com, your boat has less than 2' draft but over 7' beam and should be quite ok.

To my way of thinking, if a boat's keel can't take the entire boat weight, I wouldn't want to be sailing on it... but others might. I'm not familiar with your boat exactly (there are none in this part of the world), but if the keel supports are questionable then by all means choose another option... like Caleb's above.

 

[miatapaul]

Any reason you wouldn't simply launch it off the trailer onto a nice patch of grass (like the back yard) heel it over (using a block and tackle tied off to a nearby tree) and paint it there - one side at a time??

That's SOP for Hartley TSs and similar which are much heavier than your lightweight flyer..

Yea, I was thinking just slide it off the trailer and flip it over, and paint, then flip it back. But I did not want to say it out loud!

Seems there was someone talking about doing that with a similar size boat, after it slid off during a storm. (perhaps Sandy?)

 

[Classic30]

Yea, I was thinking just slide it off the trailer and flip it over, and paint, then flip it back. But I did not want to say it out loud!

Well, that's exactly what we (and most everyone else) in the Hartley 18-21 YC did when we had ours.. It wasn't all that difficult with an 800kg hard-chine Hartley TS18 - and our iron centerplate weighed more than the OP's entire boat!

..but then Hartley's are swing-keel trailerable yachts and, intended to be home-built, are structurally solid. Perhaps the OP's yacht isn't so robust? Only he would know.