[camaraderie]

I like the 4 winds best but KISS is a strong second choice and nearly $1k less. I agree that the KISS is the better value. I know lots of cruisers that have them and are happy. Only problem seems to be responsiveness to parts requests sometimes.

 

[camaraderie]

You might want to buy a complete common spares kit from them at the time of sale to avoid delays/problems down the road.