Ok, Here''s the deal. I have a Helms 25. I love this boat. The question is. Can I use it as a liveaboard/cruiser. I am planning to go to sea at 50 (10 yrs from now) and I have been convinced I need a 40'' boat. True?
Cowboy,Your dilemma is very similar to my own. I have a 26 ft.boat that I love also.I''ve sailed her in many locals including: Annapolis, NC outer banks,Charleston,and a recent 4 week trip to the Keys/Bahamas.During the last trip,I asked myself that same question, "could I live aboard this boat?". The answer for me was "yes." There are some drawbacks, but also some advantages. I think the real key is knowing where you are going to sail.For coastal cruising,and maybe an occasional jump over to the Bahamas, a small well fitted out boat will do fine. However,living on the boat for three weeks is a lot different than I imagine living on her for three months, or even three years will be!Really though, when you think about it, when do you really need a lot of space down below? Entertaining maybe? Of course the number of crew members are a major consideration, but in my case I sail single-handed.After sailing from point (A) to point (B), I''m ready to get off the boat and see what''s on shore, which is mostly where I''ll be until sailing on to point (C). I believe it''s all revelant to what your personal preferences are. The best scenario I could come up with for myself, is to: save up enough money to buy a good 36-38 footer. Once I do, I''ll start cruising on my 26 footer. After spending a longer period of time on her and making sure the cruising lifestyle is for me, if the size of the boat grows uncomfortable, I''ll sell her and get a bigger boat.
Are you going to single hand or one other crew person aboard? If so I would stay under 36 ft. Much bigger than that and they are hard to sail shorthanded. Not to say that it can''t be done, but more work. Who wants to work.
Also keep in mind the bigger the boat the more bucks to do the upkeep. If a bottom job on a 30 foot boat cost 800 dollars a 36 foot boat would be about 2,000 bucks. There is more of everything and and everything id bigger.
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how are ya? you know this thing about the cleaning the bottom of the boat, I ahve yet to inquire into that yet. Am looking to get a 38 - 44 footer. More than likely it will be a 38 with the way the prices are. But do you know how it is done when they do the bottom of the boat? is it like on the movie "The Replacements" where Keanu Reeves was scba diving in the water and scrapping the barni''s off?
Curious...this living aboard just keps getting mroe expensive each time I look at it.
I have a 28 foot boat that I''ve lived aboard for 24 years. I must like it. Need a 40 footer? Why? I''ve sailed this boat to Grenada and back. Boat #4 has been to Europe several times. The Helms was one of the boats that I salivated over when looking. I''d take that boat to the Carribean in a heartbeat. Struck me as one of the best built trailerables at the time. Quite livable for anyone who took Walden to heart.
I've got a Helms 25 that I'm restoring. In my eyes, they make for a good daysailing boat because of the relatively large cockpit. You could seat six for a leisurely cruise. The cabin is also generous for a 25 footer, though headroom is tight. My particluar boat has the halyards led back to the cockpit, which is nice if you're going solo.
There's a Yahoo and Sailnet Helms group, but neither is all that active. However, if you post a question there, you'll get some very helpful responses from some very knowledgeable owners.
I live on Nordica 30, by myself, and enjoy every minute of it. The trick is not to make it just like a "house". It is a boat! There are certain limitations and you have to live with them, together with the advantages. I would like to keep it as simple as possible, less things to break and maintain. Less expensive, too.
Life on a boat is a lifestyle, a choice, a limitation... and freedom.
It is what you make of it..
I Lived On My 25 Foot Sailboat For 2 1/2 Years. No Problem. Now That I Am Getting Married My Future Wife Wants To Live On Board A Boat Now. Lucky For Me. So We Are Now Looking Into 36 To 40 Footers Now. Again, Lucky Me. But She Said She Needs The Space. Again Lucky Me. Now All We Have To Do Is Wait For Her Transfer To Kauai Over In The Islands To Go Through, Which Is Should, In About Two Weeks And We're Set To Go. Good Luck "sailincowboy". Just Do It.