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Looking for the official number on my C37. Looked everywhere inside the boat but cannot find it.

This is the USCG definition of the number:

The official number assigned to documented vessels, preceded by the abbreviation "NO." must be marked in block-type Arabic numerals at least three inches high on some clearly visible interior structural part of the hull.

I have found the PCS... hull identification but this is not the same as the official number. Any idea where I can find it ?

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Forgive the question.. But are you sure the vessel was previously documented?

If so, have you looked into all your cockpit hatches that may access the hull.
 

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Do you notice any place that might have had a plaque bolted to it.. maybe the po's took it with them.
 

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The vessel has always been documented. The USCG document shows both the OFFICIAL NUMBER and the IMO OR OTHER NUMBER.

No indication so far that a plate with the number was removed by the previous owner.

I would assume that the builder did put those consistently at the same locations so I'm interested to hear from other PSC37 owners where they see the official number on their boat.

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FYI....I found this quote on an owners Blog.


Our Crealock 37, a much newer boat and with no structural wood, had the number glassed into one of the cockpit lockers. Pacific Seacraft used numbers similar to those used to identify the outside of normally-registered boats applied in the locker and then fibreglassed over them using a single layer of glass and a clear resin.
 

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Since it's the owner and not the manufacturer who "installs" this number on the boat, it could be almost anywhere. I'd suggest checking accessible areas around the engine, in lockers and under the floorboards.

Although ours is a 40 and not a 37, for what it's worth, I put JUNO's numbers in the hull beneath floorboards at the bulkhead between the main and forward cabin.

Hope this helps,

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I think the quickest and easiest would be to call the previous owners. Unless you left on bad terms from the sale, I don't see that they would have any issue telling you. If you have an email that might be quickest. They normally are done by the owner, so as Roger said they could be anywhere, but I thought they had to be visible, so not hidden under floor boards? I think it might not be a bad idea to put them in more than one location just in case they are somehow removed, you could find the "secret" numbers to prove ownership. They are supposed to be unable to be removed without leaving evidence, but that means different things to different people. I have seen boards that have them engraved and epoxied to a bulkhead or other permanent member, others actually engraved into structural members themselves. You should know what they are. Should not be hard to find the numbers NO1138389 somewhere on the boat.
 

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Mine is on the inside of the hull underneath the V-berth. As others mentioned, it could be anywhere, you just have to open up every little nook and granny and look.
 

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Looking for the official number on my C37. Looked everywhere inside the boat but cannot find it.

This is the USCG definition of the number:

The official number assigned to documented vessels, preceded by the abbreviation "NO." must be marked in block-type Arabic numerals at least three inches high on some clearly visible interior structural part of the hull.

I have found the PCS... hull identification but this is not the same as the official number. Any idea where I can find it ?

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Rudi
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2003 Pacific Seacraft 37
What is PCS ?
 

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PCS is the official identifier for Pacific Seacraft. I am sorry, I forget the reason but I do recall it being a very boring reason.

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Calling a PO, any PO, would seem to be the simplest solution.

If you are at a marina or boatyard where there are young willing underpaid dockhands...Offer a bottle or rum to the first dockrat who can find the numbers in the boat, and step aside.(G)

Could be almost anyplace but "should" be as big as your forearm, which usually means a beam or bulkhead since it is supposed to be VISIBLE not totally buried. But you never know what the PO did, or even IF they marked it.

If you are documented now, and have no reason to suspect issues, it might just be simplest to put in new numbers, and find the old ones "whenever".
 

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The vessel has always been documented. The USCG document shows both the OFFICIAL NUMBER and the IMO OR OTHER NUMBER.



No indication so far that a plate with the number was removed by the previous owner.



I would assume that the builder did put those consistently at the same locations so I'm interested to hear from other PSC37 owners where they see the official number on their boat.



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This thread is confusing. If by "official number" you are referring to the USCG documentation number, the builder has nothing to do with that. If by "official number" that you "assume that the builder did put those consistently at the same location" then you are talking about the HIN and the USCG has nothing to do with that.


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I was looking for the USCG official number. Finally found it on a bulkhead behind the starter battery. It was hidden by some spare parts that I had put there years ago. Thanks for all the useful suggestions.

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I was looking for the USCG official number. Finally found it on a bulkhead behind the starter battery. It was hidden by some spare parts that I had put there years ago. Thanks for all the useful suggestions.

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Thanks for the follow up and letting us know. We knew it had to be there somewhere.
Make sure the number is somewhat accessible in case you are boarded by LEO and they want to see it.
 

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Thanks for the follow up and letting us know. We knew it had to be there somewhere.
Make sure the number is somewhat accessible in case you are boarded by LEO and they want to see it.
Definitely do this - overzealous LEOs can ruin your day.

Ours is in the propane locker, just to port (looking aft) of the chainplate. The propane tanks are pretty much the only thing we keep stowed there, so it's an uncluttered space and the numbers can be easily seen simply by opening the compartment.

Another solution is to put them in plain view in the saloon area.
 

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Forgive the question.. But are you sure the vessel was previously documented?

If so, have you looked into all your cockpit hatches that may access the hull.
Whether it was previously documented or not:

"The Hull Identification Number (HIN) is a 12 or 14 character serial number that uniquely identifies a boat. The HIN is analogous to a VIN on a car. All boats manufactured or imported on or after November 1, 1972, must bear a HIN, and this HIN must be identified during the boat registration process."

[Edit] I should have added that the HIN may be cross=referenced to documentation number at https://cgmix.uscg.mil/psix, but getting the latter number of course does not tell you where it is on the vessel.

There is an article on the subject in May/June Good Old Boat.
 
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