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I am looking to buy a blue water cabable boat around 35-38 feet long. My budget is 50,000-70,000. I would like to do some racing as well. I would also prefer a boat newer than 85 or so, but a well-built older boat would be OK.

I went back through the archived messages here, and from what people say here and from my other research, I have found a few boats to look at, and was just wondering if people had some opinions... Here is my current list:

1) C&C 38 Landfall. Seems nice, but most of them are older than I want. What sort of hull intergrity problems might these boats have? Is the blistering going to be bad on most of them?

2) Pearson 36 (models newer than 85 only). Look like nice boats, reasonably fast. I don''t know what sort of cruising possibilities though.

3) A J-35 or -36. Good racing boats, but how is their cruising?

Anyone want to recommend any other boats to be on my list? Anyone have any comments on what I have on there now?

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Josh
 

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If you get very lucky, you might find an early 1980''s Mark I Sabre 38. Get on the Sabre e-mail list and see what you can find. Good luck! Jack
 

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If you get very lucky, you might find an early 1980''s Mark I Sabre 38. Get on the Sabre e-mail list and see what you can find. Good luck! Jack
 

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We have great fun cruising in our J/36 (see description in SailNet''s boat pages). It has an interior (!) and goes fast too. Built in ''81, they price at about half of a J/35. C&C landfall may be a bit slow to race, if you''re headed in that direction.
 

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Please go to the " www.a1line.com ".You will find so many good opportunity for you.
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Why would any one go to " www.a1line.com " when your obvious total lack of ethics as evidenced by spamming this forum and violating its rules against commercial posting shows that you are a totally untrustworthy person?
 

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Josh,
my e-mail is to the boat, I have been sailing my own ALUMINIUM 38ft cutter for 3.5 years and have lived aboard most of that time. Don''t dismiss Aluminium - it has proved brilliant for me. I''d also like you to know that my boat ''Daze Off'' is actually for sale - ONLY because I want a bigger one.
MIke (view at) http://us.geocities.com/moredazeoff/
Good luck in your searches.
 

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Should mention to you a boat I am selling. It''s a 1983 C&C 37 CB. She''s solidly built, sails well and is good shape. It''s not the boat if you want to get more serious about racing, but she can hold her own for the occasional racer.

I did turn her over to a broker, but if you go to www.hopeconsulting.com/boat it will redirect you to the yachtworld.com listing.
 

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The C&C CB is a nice looking boat. seems like it was on the market in the fall. could you explain the CB and how it functions?
Actually I am looking to buy in the fall, and have been "shopping" for almost a year.
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I actually went to see your boat last weekend... small world.

I was impressed. It looked to be in pretty good shape for its age.

You might want to clean it up some though. The main cabin had cushions scattered everywhere, and that sort of thing doesn''t make for a good first impression.

If the boat is still on the market in a month or two, once I have seen a few more boats, I will certainly come back for a second look...

Man, this boat buying thing would be so much easier if all the boats were in the same place at the same time...

Josh
 

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The cushions are scattered and propped up to allow air to flow behind them to avoid mildew buildup during the winter. Fairly typical practice in this part of the world if you don''t take them off the boat. More cushions are in storage nearby, I probably should just take them all there but then you can''t really see the shape they''re in, which isn''t too bad. And it looks pretty stark without.

I''ll have to tell JP to lay the cushions out all nice before prospects come on board, then prop them all up again before he leaves.

Hopefully I''ll sell her soon, since I already closed on a First 40.7 last November.

Nobody likes being an Admiral...least of all my very forbearing wife.
 

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I put her on the market right after I convinced my wife to let me go ahead and buy a new boat in late October/November of 2001. Pricewise - you will tend to do better in the fall since no one wants to fuss with a boat they''re selling, or pay for storage. Part of the reason I did OK on the new boat I think is that it was up for sale and unused all summer, and I caught the guy a week before he was due to be pulled for the season.

The centerboard is connected to a long wire pennant that comes up through the deck and connects via a pulley to a length of stout rope. You then use a winch (self tailing) with this rope to pull the centerboard up, and ease it to allow the board down.

For performance purposes, in general the board stays down except for broad reaches and running. Then, since it is no longer helping you it gets pulled it up to reduce wetted surface/drag.

It''s interesting to note that the boat actually sails pretty well to windward even with the board up, but you can definitely feel it "dig in" and point better with it down.

From a racing perspective, I found the board to be a hindrance sometimes. Basically you lose a couple of degrees of pointing ability. 99.5% of the time this doesn''t affect you, but a few times we had some of those "Grey Poupon" moments on the windward leg when we were a foot or less from another boat. That''s when the skipper of the other boat starts screaming at you to "quit sailing down on me" because he doesn''t realize you''re pointing as high as you can. Also you have to remember to put it up and down at the right times, something we didn''t always do (knock on the crew there, not the boat).

On the plus side for racing, where we race every week has some shallows. With that shoal draft I could (and did) take ANYONE downtown on coverage into the shallows. Never mind "we tack when they do", instead it''s "we tack when they run aground". Happened more than once last summer. I''m not eager about re-adjusting my mindset to a 7''11" draft; have to re-learn the bay.

For cruising, it opens up a few areas for you, makes more anchorages, slips, and moorings available, and gives you a little more peace of mind in unfamiliar waters. The thump of the centerboard pushing up is a far better early warning system for shallows then a solid keel slamming home and the boat jerking to a screeching halt. The sailing performance difference in regards to cruising is really negligible.

Overall, for cruising I found the centerboard to be a big plus.

I''m probably one of the more motivated spring sellers, since I''m not going to use this boat even if it hasn''t sold.
 
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