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Hi All,

Mi wife and I currently live in Washington DC. We both love water and fresh air and are seriously considering getting a sailboat and moving to southern Florida. I grew up on the river and have experience owning and operating a motor boat for a long time; I'm very good at handy work. We would like to try sailing and sailing life before we make a firm decision. Also, we want to learn directly from someone who is experienced in sailing and living aboard. We know about traditional sailing lessons, that is an option, but we prefer a more first hand experience. We are looking for someone who is willing to bring us with him/her on a small trip and share his/her knowledge with us. We are more that happy to cover the expenses of the trip and any other necessary things to make this happen. We would be traveling to Florida for about a week in March for this. I look forward to hearing from you!
 

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Blue water sailing school in Ft Lauderdale will do this. If you charter a bareboat with captain/instructor for the week. I think many charter companies will do this as well.
 

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When you get to 10 posts you can send me a private message. If you are interested I live in Annapolis Md and am always available for day and evening sails in and around the Chesapeake. Bring your own snacks etc.
I own a 2007 Gemini 105mc catamaran, so I can't give you monohull specific experience, but I can and will let you experience the multihull difference.
You will convert to the light side of sailing afterwards, that is my only reward.

BTW, in my opinion paying even just the expenses of a boat skipper who is not licensed to operate (6 pack etc.) is not legal, it implies payment and therefore requires a license. If the skipper is licensed it implies payment and therefore the skipper has other legal responsibilities.
I don't let guest bring anything I don't provide in return (shared snacks etc) to ensure I stay within the law.
 

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practicum,

I'm local to DC. My boat is at Capital Yacht Club (42' sloop). Have the requisite experience (cruising and liveaboard) and licenses (100 ton Masters). Many years experience in Caribbean and East Coast Maine to Grenada, plus other parts of world. Currently do marine consulting and teaching.

Give a shout if I can help; would be happy to discuss. Email to: bill at wdsg dot com

Bill
 

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we were 20 year power boaters. we chartered a crewed charter in Florida for a week to verify that we did indeed want to switch to sail. that worked well and 2 years later we bought our sailboat. sailing isn't brain surgery but it does require certain skills and a desire to partake in all that
 

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My understanding is that guests are more than welcome to provide any and everything, provided it is not a requirement of sailing aboard the boat. It is the requirement aspect that makes it "payment". If you were to go out sailing with a bunch from sailnet, and C2 brought two cases of beer voluntarily, even if you provided nothing but a fast boat to sail on, you couldn't be found guilty of recieving a payment of beer, since it was voluntarily supplied.

BTW, in my opinion paying even just the expenses of a boat skipper who is not licensed to operate (6 pack etc.) is not legal, it implies payment and therefore requires a license. If the skipper is licensed it implies payment and therefore the skipper has other legal responsibilities.
I don't let guest bring anything I don't provide in return (shared snacks etc) to ensure I stay within the law.
 

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My bad, I should have said TWO KEGS..... one for you and one for everyone else.
2 Cases? Please! there wouldn't be any for anyone else! :)
 

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As a Licensed skipper who runs a occasional charter, Here's my understanding of how you can get in to trouble or stay out of trouble.

It is my understanding it is profit that gets you in trouble. I personally will never take cash if I am out for the day with a group of friends. If someone offers to help with the fuel costs then we head to the fuel dock, and I let him pay. However, you cannot take on 100 gal of fuel and only burn 5 gal for the day, that is profit.

Food, beverages, and etc. no problem as long as they are shared among the group. Again if you are given a $100 bottle of wine and it is unopened during the trip and you only have $25 in expenses for the day you have profited by $75.

Expense sharing is OK, Profit making, makes it a charter.
 

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thank you all for your advices, we prefer first hand experience and looking forward to meet our future sail mate and hopefully our long term friend so those profit or non-profit thinks will not affect us... but thank you for informing us about it.
cheers!
 

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All the charter companies I know of will not only supply you with a captain (for about 150 a day) but unless they know you in some way will insist on it for at least a day or so to establish that you are not totally incompetent.
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