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I am going to look at a nice one owner Cat 22 (according to the seller - the original owner). The boat is reasonably priced and if I like it I will buy it when I get there and trailer it home (4 hours away). The boat has an auto furling rig on the jib. I have found plenty of instructions for raising and lowering the mast without the auto furler.

How do I take the mast down on a cat22 with an auto furler?

I dont want to damage anything.

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Hello,

I owned a C22 back in 2003-4. My boat had a Furlex furler. Once the mast was down all I needed to do was remove the pin from the forestay to the stem on the bow. Other furlers may be different, but the Furlex was easy to use and easy to install / remove.

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It is just the same. The only difference is that there is more weight on the forestay. Should take the genoa off b/f lowering to reduce weight. Will help a lot if the previous owner shows you how to lower, and raise the mast.
 

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I also had a Catalina 22 with the Furlex. It really isn't any different. For me I would take the main halyard and attach it at the front cleat. I had quick releases and would remove the two front shrouds and loosen the two aft shrouds. Then I would add tension on the halyard until I could pull the pin on the furler. After that I just ease out the halyard until the mast is down. Could do it single-handed with no trouble at all.
 

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I also had a Catalina 22 with the Furlex. It really isn't any different. For me I would take the main halyard and attach it at the front cleat. I had quick releases and would remove the two front shrouds and loosen the two aft shrouds. Then I would add tension on the halyard until I could pull the pin on the furler. After that I just ease out the halyard until the mast is down. Could do it single-handed with no trouble at all.
WARNING DO NOT FOLLOW THE ABOVE PROCEDURE.

As the mast nears horizontal you will not be able to control it and it will fall out of control the last few feet. It will result in a bent or broken mast and damage to the sliding hatch.

I had a Catalina 22 [ Jaguar 22 UK version same boat ] I had a X gallows made in 2 x 4 wood with short upper arms and notches in the base so it would stand on the cockpit seats.

I would start with the X at the front of the cockpit and leaning up against the bulkhead. Now as above until you get the pins out and slacken/release the halyard.

With your hands on the mast high up walk the mast back until it rests on the X. Get into the cockpit and lift the mast on your shoulder this allows you to push the bottom legs of the X together a little and put them on cockpit floor. Lower the mast in to the X. Take a deep breath the scary bit is over.

Now work the X to the back of the cockpit and lash it there. Pin out at the base of the mast and lift the mast on to the pulpit and X gallows for travelling.

I did this many many times sometimes on my own but if I could I would draft in a couple of helpers who would hold ropes that went to the top of the mast, they would walk back with the mast and prevent it from going sideways. In fact I think this was unnecessary but I was always happier if I had the two steadiers.

I reversed the procedure to raise the mast.

Now I am 6' 3 with reasonable upper body strength. If you are 5'2" with pipestems you might have someone taller standing by the first time.

There is another way to do it using something called a gin pole.

Gin Pole Mast Raising System - PY23 Paceship.mov - YouTube

It works but it needs more kit.
 

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The procedure I use is similar to what you wrote. I just didn't think we needed to write a novel. The OP has researched it an seemed to know the details. I am standing in the cockpit while I ease out the halyard and lower it until I can reach it. Then I lower it by hand into a "crutch/support" (about 6-7' tall) that I have secured to the transom. I have used this method 60 to 70 times with no issues. If I was by myself I would use a gin pole to raise the mast.
 

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I bought the boat and the owner's helper helped my wife and me take it down. He had trailered the boat several times (in the 30 plus years he has owned it) when taking it to his dealer to have the bottom repainted, etc. I don't think he remembered how to do it just right but we did what he said.

We left all the sails, sail covers, boom, etc on. We released the two front shrouds. Then we tied a rope to the auto furler, unpinned the fulrler, and lowered the mast,boom sails & furler all together. Shouldn't the sails and boom be removed when lowering or raising the mast? It would seem to make it alot lighter. While I held up the mast assembly his helper removed the mast pin. Then we set the mast on the pulpit and top. We used old PFDs as cushioning under the mast.

We 'found' a large wasp nest in the mast while lowering it! I told everyone to be perfectly still and they did. The wasps eventually dissipated and no one got stung!

I plan to practice steping the mast at home before I take it out (when the winds start again in a few weeks). I want to make a 'crutch' to help hold the mast before then.


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Shouldn't the sails and boom be removed when lowering or raising the mast? It would seem to make it alot lighter.

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Congrats! Yes, I usually remove all of that stuff as it does make it easier (and safer.)
 

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Hey,

When I trailer sailed my C22 I would leave the mainsail on the boom, but take the boom off the mast when lowering the rig. I would leave the genoa on the furler when lowering the mast as well. For winter storage I took both sails off.

My trailer had a decent winch on the front for hauling the boat onto the trailer. I would use that winch to lower and raise the mast. I made a simple crutch that went in the cockpit so I could lower the mast all the way down without damaging the mast mounting plate on the deck.

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Hey,

When I trailer sailed my C22 I would leave the mainsail on the boom, but take the boom off the mast when lowering the rig. I would leave the genoa on the furler when lowering the mast as well. For winter storage I took both sails off.

My trailer had a decent winch on the front for hauling the boat onto the trailer. I would use that winch to lower and raise the mast. I made a simple crutch that went in the cockpit so I could lower the mast all the way down without damaging the mast mounting plate on the deck.

Barry


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Hi Barry,

I am currently waiting on a transfer from AZ to CT near Hartford.

Planning to buy a Catalina 22 swing keel as soon as I get the wife and I settled. I am brand new to sailing and it seems the Cat 22 is a great one to learn on.

Been reading tons online and purchased one book so far. "The Complete Trailer Sailor".

Saw your first boat was a Cat 22 so here's the question:

Did you raise and lower the mast and set up the boat to launch by yourself?

If so please give me a few details about that process.

Seems like there is a lot of info about doing that online but it all seems rather confusing to me, and hard to do alone.

Thanks,

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Hi Greg,

Welcome!

I have raised and lowered the mast by myself. It's easier and faster with help, but with some planning, you can do it yourself. There are few difficult things: The mast can't be lowered all the way to the deck when the base is in the mast step because the mast will hit the top of the cabin top as you lower it. You solve this problem by making or buying a mast crutch. As you lower the mast, the top will hit (and rest on) the mast crutch before the base hits the cabin top. After the mast is down, you need to unpin the mast step and then walk the mast forward to support it on the bow and stern puplit. The mast is kind of heavy and awkward, but you can do it.

Once nice thing about the C22 is that the aft shrouds can stay attached. As you raise the mast they prevent it from moving side to side. So once you have the mast base in the step, and the top part of the mast in the mast crutch, to raise the mast all you need to do is pull the forestay. On my boat, I tied a line from the winch on the front of the trailer to the base of the furler drum. Then I winched away until the mast was up. then I pinned the forestay and connected the rest of the rigging. Then the boom went on, engine went on and the boat was ready to be splashed.

In all honesty, I sold my Catalina 22 in 2004, so this is all from memory. It took a solid hour to rig and launch the boat, and another hour to haul out and take down. So that got real old real quick.

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I described how I lowered the mast in an earlier post. Raising it is basically the reverse with one addition. [ This only applies if you are doing this on your own. ] you need a masthead rope, I used the spinnaker halyard. When you get the mast vertical you take the spinnaker halyard forward and cleat it off at the bow. Now the mast is secure and you can attach the forestay at your leisure.

I made a mod on my trailer which made recovery a much easier job. I made two vertical posts with little rollers on them and attached them towards the back of the trailer and set to the widest part of the boat. Now when I pulled the boat towards the trailer it would get centralized before the keel engaged in the U channel thus ensuring the keel would sit in the U which was fairly narrow on my trailer. Before I did this I needed multiple attempts especially if there was a cross wind.
 
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