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Hello and enjoy the thread -

Why are other boat owners so critical of the Mac 26M? A good question there and a simple answer perhaps. ( Change is painful )

Perhaps some constructive comment from someone who actually owns a Macgregor 26M might be useful.

I sailed for around 10 years in the solent on an Etap 26 - great boat - but getting old in the tooth. I bought the first 26M to arrive in the UK in 2004 ( my boat was at the Southampton boat show that year ) Is it safe - is it stable I hear you shout! can't possibly be a good sailor as it can cruise at 15Kn with ballast.

Well I sail my Mac 26 all year round on some of the most changeable seas in the UK - off the west coast of scotland - I have used it flat calm to F6 and I can assure you that, with full ballast tanks, it is a good stable boat and great fun too. Why not check out my site www.braemor.co.uk if you wish to see more info on adapting the boat to our climes.

By the by - I do not see the Mac as the skoda of the boating world as some folks would say ( that would be the legends) more the VW Golf Gti.

Not a boat for old yauchties and armchair sailors, but one for families to have FUN in, is that not what this is all about?

Remember - next time you are pounding along in calm conditions at 5kn, hour after hour, trying and never appearing to get closer to port. The Mac owner is already ordering up his next pint and Moules Mariner in the pub - I will save you a seat. ( I have experienced both sides of the coin above by the way )

It is a compromise - but the benefits ( by far ) outweigh any sailing limitations and I can still outsail most heavy cruisers in an F3.

If you do fancy the Mac - try one first - then decide. It worked for me.

All the best and good sailing - johnmac "Taiesha":)
 

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I've had a Mac 26 for 14 years and love it

I think the Mac 26 (mine is the old single rudder) is the best boat for travel and good sailing. I have sailed all kinds of weather from Maine to Florida and all of the Great Lakes and never had a problem with it design or construction.

It is inexpensively (some would say cheaply) built which is makes it affordable.

If you turn your nose up at it, you're missing out on a fu and easy to own boat.
 

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I , Ijust Bought A Mac Gregor 26 X And I Am Looking For Instruction In French For Rigging And Taking Care Of The Boat If You Know Where I Coud Get I Would Appriciate
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You buy a boat to suit your lifestyle.. not to satisfy what other boaters think. I've had a Mac19, a Mac26X and now I went old school to a Venture 21.. I've put up with abuse from some of the best of them.
 

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naubri said:
I , Ijust Bought A Mac Gregor 26 X And I Am Looking For Instruction In French For Rigging And Taking Care Of The Boat If You Know Where I Coud Get I Would Appriciate
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Gaetan
Bonjour Gaetan, [English version below]

Je possède un MacGregor 26X et ai produit deux vidéos pour équiper et naviguer ceci (ou n'importe quel trailerable) le voilier. Les vidéos sont disponibles dans VHS DE COPAIN format International qui jouera sur les machines de magnétoscope en France. Ils sont aussi disponibles pour l'USA, Japon, Canada et les autres pays qui utilise le format de NTSC dans la cassette de DVD ou VHS. Bien que les vidéos sont dans l'anglais, vous calme pourra regarder toutes les étapes détaillées pour équiper et naviguer votre bateau maintes et maintes fois. Le site web pour apprendre plus est www.speedyrigger.com. Merci, Jeff Stagg MacX2284F898 « Trois Soleils » Roseville, California, USA

I own a MacGregor 26X and have produced two videos for rigging and sailing this (or any trailerable) sailboat. The videos are available in PAL VHS International format which will play on the VCR machines in France. They are also available for USA, Japan, Canada and other countries that use the NTSC format in DVD or VHS cassette. Although the videos are in English, you will still be able to watch all the detailed steps to rig and sail your boat over and over. The website to learn more is www.speedyrigger.com . Thank you, Jeff Stagg MacX2284F898 "Three Suns" Roseville, CA, USA
 

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I own a Mac 26s, I agree it is one of the most vesitile boats you can bring around to vacation. I plan to buy a blue water boat when I retire, but Id be a fool to sell my Mac 26s as this boat could do more for some inshore fun and cross country trailering.
 

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While I'm glad that you are in love with your boat, I would encourage you to check the dates of posts you reply to. I see that you've replied to 2 threads so far, the first one died a little more than a year ago, and this one died 3 1/2 years ago. It is considered bad form to float old threads. If you have a question or simply want to tell everyone how much you love your boat, by all means do so. Just start your own new thread, or comment on a current thread. Thanks.
 

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You would think, if it is such bad form to "float old threads" then something should be done to prevent such an atrocious act. Perhaps banning the offender for a year, locking any thread after 6 mos., etc.

I find it funny why some people seem to get so bent out of shape.
 

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You would think, if it is such bad form to "float old threads" then something should be done to prevent such an atrocious act. Perhaps banning the offender for a year, locking any thread after 6 mos., etc.

I find it funny why some people seem to get so bent out of shape.
No one is bent out of shape, nor has anyone except you suggested any punishment for floating an old thread. Generally speaking, when an old thread is floated, the "offender" (as you put it) answers a question or makes a comment to someone who hasn't been seen around here in a very long time. This is just basic message board etiquette that is not always obvious to the new poster. If someone doesn't point it out to the new poster, odds are that he will continue to dredge up 5 year old threads, and clog the board with old news. Inevitably someone will tire of seeing all of these old threads floating up, and will be much more harsh than I was. I thought I was pretty nice about it.

Sometimes there are good reasons to float an old thread. For instance, if someone is planning on taking a long cruise and posts questions about the planned cruise. Upon returning from the cruise, the original poster may re-float the thread to report on what happened. That would be perfectly acceptable, and even desirable. For someone else to float that same thread, and give advice to the original poster about the planned cruise 2 years after the departure date does little good for anyone. I've seen this scenario played out numerous times.
 

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While I'm glad that you are in love with your boat, I would encourage you to check the dates of posts you reply to. I see that you've replied to 2 threads so far, the first one died a little more than a year ago, and this one died 3 1/2 years ago. It is considered bad form to float old threads. If you have a question or simply want to tell everyone how much you love your boat, by all means do so. Just start your own new thread, or comment on a current thread. Thanks.
Yo US - lighten up dude. Seriously. Threads don't die. If someone is interested in the subject and is willing to comment on it - it lives. No matter how long it's been. Who gives a damn?

Mini - blow the above post off. Starting a new thread just for the sake of not offending some weird "rule" that makes no sense anyway is silly. I don't know who came up with that one. But this is a forum where people talk about sailing - not try to earn a blue blazer from the Proper Forum Rules Society.

Have fun, dude.
 

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*BURP* excuse my rum... wow you guys still on this thread? I posted this thread 20 hours ago... get a life people! If your posting a post of me about replying to an old post, you are adding to the clutter. obviously when I did a search on Macgregors that was the last posts about Macs... Last time I checked, the internet is comparable to an ocean, there is a vast space out there, sorry for causing you to change your course... hmmm maybe we all had a little to much rum tonight. Happy sailings =)
 

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Yo US - lighten up dude. Seriously. Threads don't die. If someone is interested in the subject and is willing to comment on it - it lives. No matter how long it's been. Who gives a damn?

Mini - blow the above post off. Starting a new thread just for the sake of not offending some weird "rule" that makes no sense anyway is silly. I don't know who came up with that one. But this is a forum where people talk about sailing - not try to earn a blue blazer from the Proper Forum Rules Society.

Have fun, dude.
Fine with me. I was just trying to save him from getting a nasty slap from someone who may be much less understanding whether it's on this board or elsewhere. Although many of the real board "rules" guys have moved on, there are still some out there.

How many times have we seen someone give advice on something like paint application 3 years after the OP painted his boat? Does it make sense to leave them flailing about in message board limbo, or should we point out that they are answering (or commenting on) 3 or 5 year old threads? I think it's better to bring them around to more current conversations so we can all benefit.

I was just trying to gently bring him around to the current year, and current conversation, instead of letting him beat a dead horse by himself.
 

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"Punishment"

When I was made reference to "punishment" I was being sarcastic. Darn, perhaps a :D would have helped. :)

No one is bent out of shape, nor has anyone except you suggested any punishment for floating an old thread. Generally speaking, when an old thread is floated, the "offender" (as you put it) answers a question or makes a comment to someone who hasn't been seen around here in a very long time. This is just basic message board etiquette that is not always obvious to the new poster. If someone doesn't point it out to the new poster, odds are that he will continue to dredge up 5 year old threads, and clog the board with old news. Inevitably someone will tire of seeing all of these old threads floating up, and will be much more harsh than I was. I thought I was pretty nice about it.

Sometimes there are good reasons to float an old thread. For instance, if someone is planning on taking a long cruise and posts questions about the planned cruise. Upon returning from the cruise, the original poster may re-float the thread to report on what happened. That would be perfectly acceptable, and even desirable. For someone else to float that same thread, and give advice to the original poster about the planned cruise 2 years after the departure date does little good for anyone. I've seen this scenario played out numerous times.
 

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I'm grateful for anything that lands in my mailbox from this forum no matter how old since there are so few posts. Where have all the Mac owners gone???
 

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*BURP* excuse my rum... wow you guys still on this thread? I posted this thread 20 hours ago... get a life people! If your posting a post of me about replying to an old post, you are adding to the clutter. obviously when I did a search on Macgregors that was the last posts about Macs... Last time I checked, the internet is comparable to an ocean, there is a vast space out there, sorry for causing you to change your course... hmmm maybe we all had a little to much rum tonight. Happy sailings =)
Heh-heh. It's YOUR DAMN FAULT MINI! You drunken MacSailor!

Now - US...
Fine with me. I was just trying to save him from getting a nasty slap from someone who may be much less understanding whether it's on this board or elsewhere.
That's the point. Those who are "much less understanding" are much more wrong. This whole old-thread notion is ludicrous.

If this really is the reasoning behind it...

If someone doesn't point it out to the new poster, odds are that he will continue to dredge up 5 year old threads, and clog the board with old news.
...are you serious? Are we really running the danger of clogging this board with "old news"?

Look a forum is a conversation - not a news bulletin board. That being the case, anyone should feel free to talk about anything they want to talk about regarding sailing. There should be as few rules as possible. And the mods here do a great job of creating that environment.

I think that's precisely what makes Sailnet much more fun than SA or CF. It's got the edgy, fun irreverence of SA without the continual profanity and newb slamming, and it's got a tremendous wealth of salts and experience without the stodginess of CF. It's a perfect mix...IF people don't start trying to enforce goofy-ass etiquette that makes no sense.

The thing the "rulesters" always seemed to forget is that, as mini said, most people find their way into threads from a Google search. Now think about that for a minute. This means that the "offender" is actually SEARCHING for information on the subject. THEY'RE DOING THEIR RESEARCH! And that research leads them here.

At that point, for anyone here to expect them to know (or care) about some old-thread rule is ridiculous. And for people here to slap them on the hand over it is about as uncool as it gets.

If you're really trying to save the newb from being slapped for some goofy "rule infraction" - slap the slappers, not the newb.

ON THE OTHER HAND...your point about the painting has some validity (not as much because if the person is giving good advice it's a learning opportunity for those of us that might come across the thread via Google). But take crewing or a boat sale for instance where the OP is 7 years old and the poster is responding, hoping to hear something back from the OP. You have a case there. But it doesn't require a hand slap. Look at JohnP's posts for the right way to do it.

At the end of the day, either choose to join in the conversation with newbs or move on. It's really not that hard. When newbs feel welcome - they'll join. When they don't - they won't. And I'm pretty sure a growing forum is always a good forum.
 

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replacement helm for '99 Mac 26x

Hey out there! Does anyone know what helm I should be looking for to replace the original one on my dad's Macgregor 26x? Apparently Teleflex has taken over Morse and the two helms that have been sold to me do not fit in the steering pedestal. A little frustrated at this point, but I suppose that's what fixing things is all about. The recent one that DIDN"T fit is the Teleflex SAFE-T QUICK CONNECT HELM QC 5094single.

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Ahem. Anyone mind if I interrupt for a sec?

Well, I don't mean to be rude... I mean I see you guys are busy discussing important forum etiquette and I surely (and obviously) don't know the first thing about it but... does anyone know which helm will fit in the Mac 26x (1999)? What about the Teleflex nfb ss132 Safe-T II? If I am not asking in the right "thread" feel free to redirect me with VERY CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS as I am not computer literate at all.

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Aimee.

And Bravo Smack Daddy to you as well.
 

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Although someone on this forum is likely to be able to answer your question, why not call MacGregor? Another source is Blue Water Yachts, they are a factory authorized parts supplier I believe.
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Well, I don't mean to be rude... I mean I see you guys are busy discussing important forum etiquette and I surely (and obviously) don't know the first thing about it but... does anyone know which helm will fit in the Mac 26x (1999)? What about the Teleflex nfb ss132 Safe-T II? If I am not asking in the right "thread" feel free to redirect me with VERY CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS as I am not computer literate at all.

Thanks

Aimee.

And Bravo Smack Daddy to you as well.
 

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thanks

yes, I am just being impatient as nothing is open on a Sunday. I shall get on the horn during the week and ask a few sources to see if they all say the same thing and go with that...unless someone out there has replaced their steering? I have read that it needs to be done every 5 years with these boats.
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