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The marina manager said, "he didn't have the experience he needed to go out into the ocean".

I don't think the North Atlantic in late January is the best time to get that experience.

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Something doesn't add up here. An admittedly very novice sailor goes out fishing several miles offshore? Even a rank amateur (like me) knows that Cape Hatteras is an iffy proposition.

He lives at the marina and presumably knows a number of experienced mariners, yet decides to go out alone? So, at first light.. say 5:30 a.m., he gets the boat ready. Off the dock by 6:30. He's then looking at a minimum of 6 hours motor sailing down the river just to get out into the atlantic. To fish for an hour, turn around, and return after sunset? Unlikely.

Or, he's planning to take his untested boat out alone and heave to in the shipping channel overnight? Just going out solo in January sounds almost unreal. Also, how do you get de-masted and capsize? I guess you could lose your mast in a full roll, but I thought that was an either-or proposition. Either you get blown all the way over, or the rigging gives way.

I'm not saying any of it's impossible. It just defies logic and begs for a simpler explanation... especially given the fact he was rescued in such good shape. That's a long time to be constantly wet and freezing cold.
 

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Something doesn't add up here. An admittedly very novice sailor goes out fishing several miles offshore? Even a rank amateur (like me) knows that Cape Hatteras is an iffy proposition.

He lives at the marina and presumably knows a number of experienced mariners, yet decides to go out alone? So, at first light.. say 5:30 a.m., he gets the boat ready. Off the dock by 6:30. He's then looking at a minimum of 6 hours motor sailing down the river just to get out into the atlantic. To fish for an hour, turn around, and return after sunset? Unlikely.

Or, he's planning to take his untested boat out alone and heave to in the shipping channel overnight? Just going out solo in January sounds almost unreal. Also, how do you get de-masted and capsize? I guess you could lose your mast in a full roll, but I thought that was an either-or proposition. Either you get blown all the way over, or the rigging gives way.

I'm not saying any of it's impossible. It just defies logic and begs for a simpler explanation... especially given the fact he was rescued in such good shape. That's a long time to be constantly wet and freezing cold.
He had plenty of good advice over on Cruisers Forum, including sage advice from the previous owner of his boat, but he chose to ignore it...

Links and some of the story here: Angel's Owner
 

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That's an amazing read.

So, he had no clue, whatsoever... like he hadn't even read a book.

I'm trying not to be judgmental. My first time out was a hot mess, but does it count as "big balls" if you're that stupid and have no apparent appreciation for the possibility... likelihood really, that it's gonna go bad?

I guess I'm just mad that I'm a coward by comparison... lol.

Glad he's alright. I'm sure he learned A LOT and will certainly do better next time.
 

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I don't quite understand how nobody saw him for over two months. He wasn't terribly far offshore, and in a pretty well-travelled bit of ocean.
 
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I agree with Jon - something just doesn't sound right. While it's not out of the realm of possibility, having fished that area for many years, you would be hard put to find 66 days in a row where the weather didn't get downright dangerous for several of those days.

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Some of Louis' threads on Cruisers Forum certainly lend a bit of insight... These posts were made by the rescued sailor on another sailing forum.......

Preserve Fish Meat In Hot Climates

How Far Out To Sea Is Safe In A Hurricane?

Raise Battery Voltage For The Inverter?

Fire if improper electrical connection?

This one contains one of my favorite quotes:

Quoted From Cruisers Forum:
I was rewiring my boat after smoking a little herb and now whenever I run my bilge pump, the bilge water empties into the cockpit while, at the same time, pushing some of the bilge water out of the boat like it should.

When the bilge pump is turned off, the water slowly drains from the cockpit back into the bilge.

Now get this, my other bilge pump sucks water from my cockpit and empties it into the bilge, but on only one side. I think the other side is clogged or something.

So while one bilge pump sucks, the other one blows. Damn I've been watching too much FAP.

Suggestions?
Bilge Pump Emptying into the Cockpit

What's the Best Fishing Tackle & Stretegies for Cruising East Coast US?

30 amp ext cord to 50 amp outlet jerry-rig

Shocked from Touching A/C Distribution Panel

Chainplate's isn't mounted right. Is it still OK to sail?

Current, vs wind, vs boat direction?

Easy, free Fish & other food while living aboard

Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It


Alberg 35: heave to, drying out, reefing...

Worst, Most Common Boating Mistakes Caused from Ignorance

This un-edited video interview is simply stunning and leaves me with more questions than answers.......

Video Interview:

Interview With Louis Jordan After Rescue

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From what I gathered he went 180 lost the rig and waited out the ride with the keel pointing down. I think when a non-sailor says capsize they mean forever, not just for a moment until the keel does it's thing. Yes no way for it to stay inverted for 66 days. My .02 worth.

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The news report said they found him sitting on the hull. Unless it lost it's keel, there is no way, especially without the rig. It would probably bob around keel down forever.
 

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"Found him on the hull" - as in, in the cockpit.
I agree that this is the most likely scenario. Remember, journalists will often flounder when it comes to nautical terminology. ;)
 
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I agree that this is the most likely scenario. Remember, journalists will often flounder when it comes to nautical terminology. ;)
Not trying to take a cheap shot at journalists, but the fact is they generally founder (heh, I see what you did there) when it comes to ANY terminology. Boats, guns, planes, military stuff, etc. I'm sure it's the same with other things I know nothing about: medical stuff, legal, construction, nuclear physics, retail sales, cooking, textiles, dead languages, etc.
 
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