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Does anyone have an opinion, or information to offer on the Montecarlo 43. We are considering one for serious cruising.

The are an Angelo Lavrano/Fred Scholtz design built in South Africa in the 90's.
 

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Does anyone have an opinion, or information to offer on the Montecarlo 43. We are considering one for serious cruising.

The are an Angelo Lavrano/Fred Scholtz design built in South Africa in the 90's.
One of my pet hates is settees on a boat that are not straight but that is about the worse thing I can say about her. (Presuming we are looking at the same boat - FNQ ? ) Back rests on cockpit seats look a bit low as well but that does seem to be a perennial problem with centre cockpits.

Given the asking price you'd be thinking to pick her up for around $150 which also seems to represent pretty good value.

If we were in the market I'd want to check her out at least. Lavranos is a pretty good name but beyond that I don't know anything much about them.
 

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One of my pet hates is settees on a boat that are not straight but that is about the worse thing I can say about her. (Presuming we are looking at the same boat - FNQ ? ) Back rests on cockpit seats look a bit low as well but that does seem to be a perennial problem with centre cockpits.

Given the asking price you'd be thinking to pick her up for around $150 which also seems to represent pretty good value.

If we were in the market I'd want to check her out at least. Lavranos is a pretty good name but beyond that I don't know anything much about them.
Yes the same boat, there are a couple also for sale in the med, but the one in FNQ is the one we are looking at. I am with you on the curved settees.

The low backrests on the Jarkens were enough once to make my wife give a big thumbs down to a boat I really loved and would otherwise have bought. The backrests on our Martzcraft are best described as just adequate, so I think you are right in it being a centre cockpit compromise.

We are considering the Montecarlo 43 in the context of looking also at the Saga 43( one on the market in oz) and also KP 46/44's( none really around at the moment).
 

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Havn't seen the Saga but I'll have a look today. KPs are great boats. Had we not gone the way we did they would have been right up the top of our list. Its maybe being a little picky but the only thing I don't like about them is that the deck comes down quite low over the aft end of the double berth and it appears most people sleep head forward not aft.

When we bought our girl we intended sleeping head forward in the v-berth but found it overly claustrophobic. We now sleep feet forward which is a less than perfect arrangement, particularly for an old fart like me, as would be head forward in an aft cabin.

Looked.

The Saga looks nice though and seems very realistically priced though I can see the advantages of an aft cabin, as distinct from the quarter cabin, for a family. Maybe I am becoming overly obsessed with sleeping arrangements but Pullman berths are not well suited to hot climates. 7' draft ? For a cruising boat I do like to keep it under six. Picky perhaps.
 

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Thanks Andrew, great food for thought.

What do they say about every boat being a compromise??

I do like the performance of the Saga. Sailing the east coast at 5 knots is to be honest a PITA. Too often we have turned on the engine because we have needed a 1 knot extra of boat speed to make an entry on the right tide etc.

I do agree with you on the draft, we have bumped up and down the coast several times in our Martzcraft 35. Inside Fraser across Sheridan flats we touched, Mooloolaba we were damn lucky on tide, Southport to Birsbane up the Broadwater was tricky, we bumped coming into Pancake Creek and couldn't get into Keppel Bay Marina once because of draft.
 

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I too like the performance aspect of the Saga and one cannot deny she is a good looking beastie. I did a bit of Google and found an SA thread where it was remarked that they were a bit tender but I cannot verify that.

Speaking of bumping, when we went into Lake MacQuarie we had to get one of the locals to come out in their stinkpot and haul us over so we could clear the bar at the dropoff. Bit spooky but it worked.
 
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