[dylanwinter1]

As a sailing Hack I have been watching the first good video thread with interest

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/general-discussion-sailing-related/188817-our-first-good-video.html

It was all getting a little unpleasant so I thought rather than stoke the fires over there I would flick on a cool LED over here

I will post a film - it is a good one. It will be served from youtube - because youtube never lets you down - vimeo often does

it will be preceded by an advert put there by google based upon your browsing history - probably a stenna stair lift given the demographic of sailing forums. There is also likely to be a nag box across that you have to click on to get rid of - stenna cruises now. . You can watch the film full screen in HD - at the end the screen will break up into sixteen little screens which will then take you to a youtube page where you will see the advert for the stenna stair lift again - this time down the side of the screen.

it is a mash up - my images, and music from three versions of brothers in arms

The film has had 22,000 hits - not massive but not bad.

I have had films on youtube that have had 18 million hits - about trucks

Youtube will pay me $1 per thousand for those adsense hits you just saw. Actually it doesn't because it does not like my "click through algorithm". However, it still sells adverts against the film so it can't be that bad now can it google.

some money will go to the music companies who own the music I used. I have no idea how much of that advertising revenue will go to the bloke with the deep base voice. Not enough to notice I am sure.

I started making sailing films in 2008 and have made some fairly good ones -a few that missed the mark. Free on youtube, sold on DVD, now streamed in HD on youtube surrounded by adverts put there by youtube.

That is alright - my work has often had adverts around it - that is what journalism is.

We now have some excellent citizen sailing bloggers - Lelea and paragon to name but two

I love sailing blogs - I get to see places I will never get to - a bloke I understand will tell me what it is like. Fook I would love to see some decent Chesapeake films - and the texas coast - so welcome aboard all you bloggers.

I do have some advice for would be sailing video bloggers -

take this from an old bloke who has been doing it for eight years

1/ be nice

2/make nice films

3/don't expect to make much money - but be really grateful to those who do hit the appreciation button. Converting those video lurkers who watch and never tap is really, really hard.

Dylan

I have amended my funding matters page in the light of the other thread

there you will find links to Lelea and Paragon

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/subscribe/

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/subscribe/

 

[goat]

Union Pacific's was way better. You don't even have a motorcycle.


Awesome by the way.

goat

 

[dylanwinter1]

Union Pacific's was way better. You don't even have a motorcycle.

Awesome by the way.

goat

I usually have a push bike on board if that helps at all

sturmey archer three speed and with a basket for the camera

I look like a retired vicar

I am not selling this very well am I?

D

 

[mbianka]

I have enjoyed your videos in the past and I like you have discovered the beauty of sailing local waters and finding them just as rewarding as some of the far off locations I have sailed.

I to have made a few videos myself including some that are still not made public. Mine are mostly about technical aspects on board my boat. While none will approach the quality of your images I can appreciate the effort it takes to make and edit them.

One thing you might consider is getting your own Royalty Free music selections for your videos. I thought YOU TUBE pulled a fast one when they began offering their Royalty Free music to accompany ones video for "free". If you actually use their music they strip you of any of the revenue from the ads they put on top of your videos. At least they do here in the states. You could be losing quite a bit of beer money from your endeavors by using their selections.

Glad you posted here and reminded me of your videos. It has been a year or two since I last saw one. I will need to try and pick up where I left off and perhaps buy you a beer or two digitally.

 

[dylanwinter1]

thanks for that

however, I got chucked out of adsense for the wrong click algorithm when during a snow storm a lot of blokes started clicking on the ads to help KTL that was five years ago - there is no redemption in the world of google - once you are out you are out. The computer knows no mercy

it is a story worth knowing if you are to understand the way the world of digits works

Duckworks - All boat design is a compromise - Rubbish

I used to use music I had paid for or been given permission to use - however, youtube snatches the music and copyright first and then tells you to prove you are allowed to use the music

sorry to dissapoint you

shame that your films are not on the web - they might as well be

Incidentally - here is a movie about roller reefing

clicks and views for stairlifts courtesy of google, revenue to google. No music in this one by I have the wrong click pattern

good eh!

D

 

[tdw]

Lovely to see you here Mr Winter.

For those of you who do not know him or of him please indulge. His entire saga from the first days of the Slug and the Volvo from Hell shows to perfection what can be done with little money, a lot of hard work and dedication and a wee titch of talent. It has been an utter pleasure to play voyeur as he potters about yon sceptred isle.

The preceeding is an unpaid for suck up on behalf of MOBs everywhere.

 

[miatapaul]

For some reason just reading your thread, I am thinking Monty Python. I love the "look like a retired vicar" for me it is selling it well!

Great short film. So you are still not getting any money from Google? Seems like perhaps you could move it all over to Vemo?

 

[Minnesail]

it will be preceded by an advert put there by google based upon your browsing history - probably a stenna stair lift given the demographic of sailing forums.

Bwaaaa hhaaaaa haaaaa haaaaa!

 

[dylanwinter1]

Lovely to see you here Mr Winter.

For those of you who do not know him or of him please indulge. His entire saga from the first days of the Slug and the Volvo from Hell shows to perfection what can be done with little money, a lot of hard work and dedication and a wee titch of talent. It has been an utter pleasure to play voyeur as he potters about yon sceptred isle.

The preceeding is an unpaid for suck up on behalf of MOBs everywhere.

What a fine wordsmith you are A

Us MOBs need to stick together

we have special needs

Hence the requirement to fund the good work being done at the Institute of Marine Psychology.

Initially I found the current means of funding slightly uncomfortable - however, it seems no worse than adverts being placed alongside my work.

That is the way that most journalism is funded

However, it is a pretty good feeling when I put a film up, blokes watch it and then click on the paypal - often using their wife's account.

the interesting thing is that when we are on youtube we have our "everything is free" hat on.

Me too,I watch western films and never give a second thought as to how they got there.

Youtube is fantastic - it really delivers bandwidth

when watching films on vimeo accesed via a website then you have a slightly different hat on.

I have been a working journo all my life - this is a new space -

one advantages of watching on vimeo is that you do not get all the adverts.

when people watched the DVDs they were paying £2.50 for each hour they watched.

Around 4,000 views on Vimeo a week - against 40,000 youtube views

so there are plenty of sailors prepared to watch - but they have their youtube heads on

paypal taps go up and down. A good day is 22p per hour watched

a bad day is around ten pence

D

 

[CLucas]

Wow. This made my evening -- absolutely gorgeous. Thank you. Happy to support KTL.

Not much sailing going on here at the present:


Cheers,
Chris

 

[dylanwinter1]

I don't know how you cold blokes cope

This is my first winter without a boat on the water for ten years

I really miss my winter sailing.

C,

you just did a paypal tap to reward me for my journalism

bless you

whenever anyone buys a book or pays for a DVD it feels pretty good.

Actually the good feeling is when they buy the second one.

However, the dynamics here are entirely different and are new to me.

Give it all away in the hope that some-one will tap a paypal button in gratitude

Was that the first bit of KTL you have ever seen?

what tipped you over from being a passive consumer to an active tapper

I have been a hack for almost four decades now.

It has been really interesting seeing what the web does to journalism - like a tabloid on steriods.

The web works the way most of the world's printed and broadcast journalism works. Use the journalism as a way of drawing eyes to the adverts placed alongside it.

Our old sailing mags were thick with adverts - finding the copy was sometimes a bit of a struggle.

At the moment there is some money to be made by writing for a magazine such as Practical Boat Owner or Small craft Advisor - to pluck two at random. Both with ciruclations of around 20,000

Each 1000 words will get 20,000 paper hits from the eyes of sailors who buy the magazine - the magazine publisher rewards the journalist with maybe $100

However if a piece of sailing journalism reaches those same 20,000 sailors eyes on the web the rewards are so tiny as to be undetectable for the hack.

Of course, one argument is that now we have sailing forums and bloggers we no longer need sailing journalists.

But thanks for appreciated my work Chris - that is a square meter of antifoul taken care of.

This is the new economy in action.

Incidentally,

these blokes spotted an idea on the web - promulgated by a sailing journalist and they crowd funded this

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/egloo-candle-powered-heater

we live in amazing times chaps

D

 

[fryewe]

...these blokes spotted an idea on the web - promulgated by a sailing journalist and they crowd funded this

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/egloo-candle-powered-heater

...D

Any bit of heat is a blessing when you're cold and damp.

But the four candle tea light heater only puts out about 600 watt-hours of energy over about a five hour period...which is about the same as one standard size human body.

A blanket over the shoulders, an extra sweater, and a boggin cap and mittens are a lot more effective at warming your body up.

Of course, the tea light heater does concentrate the energy to give you a hot spot where you can take the nip off your fingers and nose.

The crowd sourced heater is aesthetically pleading to the eye, and I think the sellers will get some orders based on that and its novelty, as well as on the endorsement in a widely viewed video by a MOB a couple of winters ago.

I test drove the concept of the ceramic pot heater with my butterfly kerosene stove this winter...a roarer burner with many times the output of a quad of tea lights. It was moderately effective, but a bit disappointing.

Hope your funding efforts enable your completion of your trip through the last of the "crinkly bits" of Britain's coastline. I think you are building a travelogue that will become a valuable resource for a variety of people in years to come. In the future your videos will stimulate interest about the harbors in your era similar to the interest generated by the included vignettes about the past lives of the harbors you are visiting now.

Thanks for your work. It's one of the very few things on TV worthy of invested time.

 

[dylanwinter1]

one flower pot or two?

D

 

[fryewe]

Just one...should I use two?

I'll give two a try.

 

[dylanwinter1]

Just one...should I use two?

I'll give two a try.

some fairly subtle phsics going on. You block the hole in the inner pot and it gets very hot - you then get a rising column of warmed air passing betweeen the two and out the hole in the top of the outer pot

the theory is that you are moving more air - but it is all at a slightly lower temperature than if just the hot inner pot.

of course, success all depends upon your expectations

this man explains it all

 

[tdw]

Will ultimately depend on size of cabin and how cold is your winter. For those of us down here who have to suffer through winters that can and do get as cold as 32 degrees F (I know I know how do we cope ?) one of those pots would undoubtedly be quite sufficient in a moderate sized cabin.

North American winters and a boat with a cavernous interior might make it struggle as might poor insulation.

Americans it seems (and I'm not having a dig) do like to get temperature a whisker warmer than the Brits.

 

[fryewe]

some fairly subtle phsics going on.

...this man explains it all

Thanks for the link. I watched the video again. Chimney effect and greater mass of the two pots gives a bit more convection for chimney and greater surface area for the air to pick up heat...so I'll give that a try. In the end, the amount of heat energy from the candle combustion should be the same whether radiated or convected or a combination.

Can't beat 8p per day for heat if its adequate...and my 18x8 cabin should warm up a bit from use of this method. Only needed for waking hours...when we're locked in for the night with two bodies and a small dog tucked in under a "mink" blanket we generally warm the cabin so much we're kicking covers off us by morning.

 

[titustiger27]

thanks for that

however, I got chucked out of adsense for the wrong click algorithm when during a snow storm a lot of blokes started clicking on the ads to help KTL that was five years ago - there is no redemption in the world of google - once you are out you are out. The computer knows no mercy

it is a story worth knowing if you are to understand the way the world of digits works

Duckworks - All boat design is a compromise - Rubbish

** snip }

D

That article was interesting, but probably not surprising to most people... as in what most people like myself fear. Like you pointed out about a hamburg or a car, how many people would sign the same contract they blindly do for iTunes for a hamburg?

I was a Google Classroom meeting and they were showing how to add apps to your account. So I went to the one they suggested. The disclaimer said it would search all of my actions and everything people sent to me.. or any time I gave people access to my account (as in share a document). That is right, I not only was to sign away my rights, anyone I collaborated with as well....

And when I mentioned this in a room of IT people, they just shrugged and said that is the way it is now a days. And I guess they are right, but I didn't click okay.

I find it amusing your point about Orwell seeing our world as one he feared. I can't believe we have allowed us to be sucked into this.

As far as google and ad sense... they should be paying you and the consumer for all the research data we provide them. I looked at your video on roller fuller, not something I will buy in the next few years, but some day, and now I google knows I have some kind of an interest... and I suspect I will see ads popping up... for weeks... and you will not get a check for being the bait.

All I can say, when will the revolution start?

 

[mbianka]

Yes, interesting article on the pitfalls of digital media. Still I think the genie is out of the box for better or for worse.

However, the dynamics here are entirely different and are new to me.
Give it all away in the hope that some-one will tap a paypal button in gratitude
I have been a hack for almost four decades now.
It has been really interesting seeing what the web does to journalism - like a tabloid on steriods.

The web has enabled just about everyone to have their own "digital media empire" for relatively low cost. One no longer has to deal with nit picking editors either. I've had my blog online since 2006 and it was started just as kind of a digital log for me about my boat. It has morphed into a catch all of events, projects, maintenance issues, equipment reviews. travelogue etc... I enjoy writing it but, it is still work and takes a bit of time. Though I do like when someone makes a nice comment on occasion. But, it mainly helps me keep track of when I did what or where I was with the boat. IMO your videos are very professionally filmed and edited and well worth a PayPal tap. Especially, when one considers what one pays to be entertained in a movie theater or pay for Cable TV these days.

The web works the way most of the world's printed and broadcast journalism works. Use the journalism as a way of drawing eyes to the adverts placed alongside it.
Our old sailing mags were thick with adverts - finding the copy was sometimes a bit of a struggle.

At the moment there is some money to be made by writing for a magazine such as Practical Boat Owner or Small craft Advisor - to pluck two at random. Both with ciruclations of around 20,000
Each 1000 words will get 20,000 paper hits from the eyes of sailors who buy the magazine - the magazine publisher rewards the journalist with maybe $100
However if a piece of sailing journalism reaches those same 20,000 sailors eyes on the web the rewards are so tiny as to be undetectable for the hack.

Yes, any money one can earn is usually minimal online but, it does create some revenue for some. It still requires one to do the work of writing, editing etc... But, unlike working on a freelance article or on a video for a production company you get to work for yourself and control the rights. On the other hand it is an evergreen type of media too as opposed to printed media. I still see people looking at my posts on the repairing my boats Maxwell/Nillson VR-700 windlass that was first posted in 2009 even today. So it is still helping others out there. While old media like a magazine would have long been tossed in the trash.

Of course, one argument is that now we have sailing forums and bloggers we no longer need sailing journalists.
This is the new economy in action.
Reading Sailing articles is somewhat a hit or miss proposition for most readers these days. I would never read all the articles in a magizine. Where as places like Sailnet act as a kind of a digital boatyard. A place where thousands of fellow sailors gather. A place where someone usually has the answer to a problem or advice. Messages tend to be more focused and in depth than a general magazine article. But, it's not just print media that is fading. Even broadcast media is often trying to play catch up with New Media these days.

 

[TomMaine]

Another nice vid, Dylan. It's like a series of near stills, that flow with the music. You bring out the mystery in the water and sailing.

When I take photos sailing, I hope to tell something with the image.

Watching your video, I envy how much you can say with your well edited footage. I can see it takes work to edit down to what is good video. And more work still to acquire the raw material to work with.

When you run into a street artist in a city park or an ancient square around the world - a musician, mime, artist - they have your attention for a brief moment.

Most will pass by. But if the artist is good, there will be a small crowd gathered. Some of us will gladly put some $ in the guitar case and feel it was well spent.

Fill an unlimited park or square with digital artists, and you have the internet today. It's a mass of pixels. No one stands out, and most of the artists aren't good enough to be on the street.