[wrublewski]

i live aboard with my wife and 2yold son. we're in florida, so i'm really happy with the insulating 3/4" ply core in the deck. the boat is like a home now, so it's really comfortable for us. storage space is tight because of the water tanks/fuel but ours is outfitted with more cupboards in the aft as well as in the old pilot berth. when we have visitors for day, we're happy with 6 adults inside and it's not crowded. overnight is another issue but that's only because of our son and his schedule. Overall, i'm impressed with the layout

 

[smackdaddy]

Very cool. Thanks wru - that's great first-hand info to have. I do envy you, dude! Nice ride!

Anything that drives you crazy?

 

[SailNet Archive]

question to cedoyle

I've recently purchased a 1983 N/M 45' and while we had a great time delivering it from Lake Erie to Lake Michigan I just noticed a "settling" in the main cabin floor near the forward head. In "cedoyle's" posting he mentioned a mast issue. I was wondering what the problem was and what was the fix. Any info anyone could forward to me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
VP719

 

[skibum54]

been reading some of the comments on the NM 45, can anyone out there tell me is the hull design on the race version is different than the cruise style or is it just the interior. also, if the 80's version by morgan different from the later 90 catalina version? thanks for any feedback

 

[upncmng]

N/m 45

Hey VP, (WVU & SM) I have an 84 N/M 45 CB version. It's a great boat , sails fantastically . I race it occasionally and always do well. It's a little tender past 17 wind speed, needs a reef to stay on its feet , but it points like crazy!
I have no issues with the CB. It is easy to raise and lower. There is no friction in the line/pipe. I could raise it without the winch if I wanted to.
I do have the floor sag that you speak about right at the forward bulkhead at the door sill to the forward head. I don't like it, but am not overly concerned about it. I would like to know if my boat has the upgraded mast step though. I don't have another boat to compare to, so maybe we all can share pics/notes on what the mast area/step looks like. I have sent a note to 'cedoyle' who appears to have the answer, but as yet I have not recieved a reply.

 

[upncmng]

N/M 45 race vs cruise

Hello Skibum,,, my understanding of the differences between the race vs cruise versions of the N/M 45 are primarily the keel design and weight. The race version has a deep keel foil design and the interior of the boat was pretty spartan. All stripped out with plenty of bunk space and room for sails. There is a guy on this forum out of San Fran I believe who owns 'Beatle' . It is the racing version.

 

[smackdaddy]

After everything I've seen over the past year or so, I still love this boat. Do you have any gripes with it, up?

 

[upncmng]

u still out there?

Cedoyle,,, you still have your N/M 45? If so, can I contact you regarding one of your posts? Regards

 

[upncmng]

N/m 45

SMK Daddy, I have very few gripes with the boat. Like all boats it has its design and personality quirks. I would say that it is a bit tender in winds above 20. You have to reef to keep it sailing flat, but it really moves well when you have the right sails up.
The other thing I don't like too much is the large flat bridge deck . It can make for a nervous transition from cockpit to cabin in a blow with some heal on the boat. But it is designed that way to make for a larger aft cabin which I love,,,, so its all a compromise.
Regards, Pete

 

[smackdaddy]

Cool. Thanks for the feedback Pete.

 

[XTR]

I haven't been on a N/M 45 but all of the pictures that I see the cockpit looks small and shallow. Is that impression correct?

How's the room in there? Can 4 adults be comfortable in there?

 

[wrublewski]

easily, the cockpit is large enough to have 6 adults eat dinner around the table.

 

[wrublewski]

used N/M main sail

Hello,

Does anyone have a second main lying around they want to get rid of? I'm looking for a used main.

 

[DeltaZulu]

I lived on 1983 model for 3 years. I had the floor sag problem. But man what a sailing machine! Most other boats only get a view of the stern of a N/M 45. I have never slept better than I did in that centerline aft berth. As I recall, the hull and deck were fully core with klegecel, which is supposed to be stiffer that airex. It made for a nice cool, quiet interior. The only thing I really didn't like was how shallow the cockpit was. Other than that, she was a great boat!

 

[NewBaySailor]

45' Morgan for Sale

Here's a link for a beautiful 45' Morgan for sale at a fantastic price: 1983 Morgan - NelsonMarek N/M 45 sailboat for sale in Michigan

Check it out.

 

[cedoyle]

Mast issue

I've recently purchased a 1983 N/M 45' and while we had a great time delivering it from Lake Erie to Lake Michigan I just noticed a "settling" in the main cabin floor near the forward head. In "cedoyle's" posting he mentioned a mast issue. I was wondering what the problem was and what was the fix. Any info anyone could forward to me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
VP719

A couple things about the N/M and her IOR hull. She's flat on the bottom...so what happens is when the mast is compressing down she tends to flex a bit. You can do a couple things the offset this issue. Make a tie to deck from mast base to mast ring with a piece of rod riggiing the same size as the standing rigging or a bit larger. When the mast compresses it then tries to compress deck at bulkhead. Second you can remove mast and floor as I did and completely rebuild the mast step. I had to do this because of some water found its way into the step softening it. I also tied my mast base into the grid system so the compression is distributed throughout the hull as it should have been. If you go the the route that I did it a lot of work but it addressed the problem completly. I contacted an old Morgan Engineer and was told that this is what they did on the raciing versions to eliminate the issue. The real problem was that the grid system was not made high enough at the mast base to take the compressions on a flat hull.....after thousands of cycles the grid would actually start to break their tabs. But again this only happened on the racing versions of the boats.

 

[wrublewski]

Different Versions

I'm going to be listing my boat for sale soon and I'm trying to decide which version is my boat. It was built in 1984 (from the manuals) but sold as a 1985 N/M Catalina Morgan.

The boat is drastically different than some of the other N/M Morgan 45's I've now compared it to. (Sugar scoop stern, Larger cockpit, dedicated shower in fwd head, smaller steering pedestal housing in aft berth, fwd facing nav station, ss companion ladders, no walk-through to aft head from saloon, larger side windows in salon, different mast, different mast step, compression stay to deck from mast step, better use of space, ect.).

I have only good things to say about the boat as I've now lived on it for 2 years but the stories I hear from other owners are positive but with tons of repairs to things that are in very good condition on this model. Seems that all the issues were fixed in this version.

 

[deepwatersailor]

Hi, all -

I realize that this is a rather old thread... but you folks should have waited to start it until I bought my NM45. Yep, I'm a proud (very proud!) new owner of one; love it to death despite the standard raft of problems that you inherit when you buy an older boat. [shrug] Life is like that, and I've been living aboard and sailing for over 20 years now.

If there's any complaint that I do have about it, it's something that's already been mentioned: a lack of stowage space. Not so much for the big stuff - although that would be nice too - but the absence of little drawers and cabinets (I've been spoiled by living aboard a 34' Dutch-built steel ketch... I'd need a 60' boat to get that much easy stowage!) Guess I'll have to build a few things, bookshelves primarily...

Other than that - well, a passage down Delaware Bay at 11.5 knots (7.5 through the water) was a real convincer if I needed one. Oh, and surfing down waves? I was whooping it up like a little kid on my first rollercoaster ride: it was like steering a 12' dinghy! I swear, I had tears of joy in my eyes while re-learning how to steer her the way she likes it.

Looking forward to a whole lot of sleigh rides -

Ben

 

[sabre28sailor]

Hello everyone, we would like to introduce ourselves. We are new owners of a 1983 Nelson Marek 45 just upgraded from a Sabre 28 as our name indicates. Reading the entire post, it appears we picked up where MikeGC left off since we bought his boat! We trucked her to Lake Ontario just in time to winterize her! It may be the first time she has ever been winterized! She is one complicated lady - we are learning as we go. We are interested in sharing information, pictures and sea stories. Can't wait for ice out - oh wait it hasn't iced UP yet!

 

[nilso85]

anyone looking into buying a NM '44 maybe? currently at the island of Curacao, well equiped ship..worth try through this forum enjoy the sailing!

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