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My favorite line from the article:
"Given current economic conditions, the small M29, at $185,000, is a more affordable day sailer that still can keep people on the water."

Only $185,000! What a deal. Seriously, that has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of. Most of the paople I know own boats, and have been around the water their whole lives. I don't think any of them (including liveaboards) have a boat that is worth $185K. If the economic conditions are affecting you that much, maybe you shouldn't be buying a Morris.
 

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I caught that too; but for a new out-of-the-box boat, that IS a little on the , ahem..... "affordable", side OMG
 

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My favorite line from the article:
"Given current economic conditions, the small M29, at $185,000, is a more affordable day sailer that still can keep people on the water."
Having grown up reading the Bangor Daily News I can feel pretty good about stating that Morris told them this and it isn't in quotes because it is paraphrased.

Morris not only makes quality boats but obviously has both feet securely planted on the ol' terra firma. Holy crap.
 

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I like it..a lot.

The M29 is a modern new boat, designed with old lines that cleverly maintains beautifull lines and proportions..which is what they wanted in the firts place.

This is how a new "retro look" boat should look like, unlike the....ahem...you know which boat I am talikng about...yep..that one..the tottaly disporportional misfit....
 

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Having grown up reading the Bangor Daily News I can feel pretty good about stating that Morris told them this and it isn't in quotes because it is paraphrased.
LOLOL; having been a BDN reader for almost 20 years, I would have to say that you have a keen political tongue and a clever turn of phrase. :laugher I'm actually surprised they spelled Morris correctly!
 

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BluewaterMD......

I've not been involved in the sailing community/market very long. 5 years to be exact. It's been long enough to know that talking about a Morris would be the same as talking about a RR or other high quality built expensive fine automobiles.

Also, why state the completely obvious at the end of your post?

What does it matter who you know or what the people around you sail regardless of the price? If you were reading an article about Ferrari motorcars and they came out with a less expensive model to allow people to enter the Ferrari marketplace in bad financial times, how does that reflect stupidity????? Seems more like class envy or class warfare to me. Do you seriously thing any of these companies think about the people that CAN'T afford them when they develop marketing plans or do an interview with the media?

Sailing a Morris, Oyster or such type or driving a Ferrari or RR does not make one a better person. Maybe more fortunate or lucky... not that LUCK has very much to do with success most of the time anyway.

Good luck.
 

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I understand the build quality of Morris and have nothing against the boats, or the people who own them. They are beautiful boats, and if you have the $$$ to own one, then by all means get one. It doesn't make you better or worse of a person. And if I have the cash for one of their boats one day, I would absolutely love to own one.

My "stupidity" reference was not directed at Morris or their boats. It was about the quote in the article. My problem with the article was that it said "can still keep people on the water," which implies you have to own a Morris or similar boat to go sailing. If it had said it was more affordable than other boats in the Morris line, and allow more people to be Morris owners that would have been fine.
 

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I also noticed that J-boats has introduced the J-95. Not as pretty as the Morris, but possibly a contender in that size. Has anyone seen a pricetag on the J?
 

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I've not been involved in the sailing community/market very long. 5 years to be exact. It's been long enough to know that talking about a Morris would be the same as talking about a RR or other high quality built expensive fine automobiles.

Sailing a Morris, Oyster or such type or driving a Ferrari or RR does not make one a better person. Maybe more fortunate or lucky... not that LUCK has very much to do with success most of the time anyway.
Good luck.
Success is not measured by material possesions either...there are other ways to measure success.
As for LUCK it is the only thing that will get me into a Morris because I am just a poor working stiff. If/when I win the Lotto, a Morris 42 will be in my sights. Morris is a fine yacht, I have been on them during BoatShows and drooled over the thought of owning one, I'll take the RR as an added bonus too. It will not change me as a person, I'll just feel a bit more proud to sail a Morris over my Macgregor.
The Morris 29 is likely targeted at the wealthiest families, something for the kids to learn on. even if I won 185K I would not choose the 29 when there are other options to consider. It is just a rich kids toy. Nice toy though!
 

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I ABSOLUTLY Lust after the Morris 42. The interior layout is outstanding and she is just a beautiful yacht. I need to wait for the "pre-owned" market kicks in. The wife loves it as well, just not in the cards for now, and most likely not in the future either. But I sure can dream...........
 

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I ABSOLUTLY Lust after the Morris 42. The interior layout is outstanding and she is just a beautiful yacht. I need to wait for the "pre-owned" market kicks in. The wife loves it as well, just not in the cards for now, and most likely not in the future either. But I sure can dream...........
Aww man.. Why's you have to go and mention the M42? I just went to look at it and now I want nothing else. MAN that's a pretty boat.
 

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There is a 36 here in the seattle area. I luv the porn shots, in person, not as purrty as I thought it would be! maybe it was the ugly color combo!

Anyway, maybe a 42 would be a better option.....then again, right now, an X34, 35 or 37, dehler 34, SunFast 3200, dufour 34e appear to be the types of boats I would get that are affordible to a point with me. If I had 400-600K like the M36 or 42, Santa Cruz 37, Swan 42 or 45 would be in my slip!

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I'd still love to see them in person. I just think the classic lines are really pretty.

Then again, who am I kidding. I can't even afford the 1975 O'Day 25 I've been drooling over. :D:D
 

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I love the M line of boats; I think they (and the other luxury "daysailers") are actually rather practical. Expensive, sure, but how many folks who spend that much for any boat actually wind up spending more than a couple of nights aboard anyway? The marketing rationale is that for those that can afford that kind of boat, they will more than likely eat out and stay at a b&b in port anyway. They will also likely use their boats the way that most of us do anyway: daysails. Why pay for, maintain and haul around a floating condo if you never use it?

I was on one of the M boats at a boat show, and while talking with the young Morris employee, I discovered that he sails an Oday 25! I guess the employee discount didn't work for him.
 

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The J105 had a similar design spec, ie go fast, be fun, 1d race, 5.5' head room, enough for the ave female, reasonable interior, but that the owner when crusing would hit B&B's or equal every few days etc with occasional stop at a park/bouy or anchor, and at a marina.

Reality is, like for me, the Jeanneau SunFast 3200 would work well too, easily sailible with two, designed that way, has hit 18 knots planing etc, not a lot of interior, but has over 6' of headroom......enough interior to do what I would need it to do for the most part. Not quite enough for the spouse.........but..........

I do see the reason for the M series and Alerion style boats, J has a more modern touch hull desing if you will on some of there models. All are good!
 

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The 42 at the Annapolis Show was absolutly stunning from the butterfly hatches to the open interior. Bruckmamnn also makes a "Day Sailor" that I like...But if I had my choice on any of them, the Morris 42 would be in my slip. Perhaps in due time...I see they hold their residule value quite well.
 
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