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I have sailed day trips in a sunfish to the first four of these destination but now I have a different perspective. I recently bought a 28 foot san juan (4.5 foot draft) currently moored at two rivers marina on bohemia river. I have taken off week of 8/24. I want to take my wife to some of the spots I visited by sunfish. We plan to go down to the boat on friday. Our marina is having a picnic day on saturday so we probably would head out Sunday.

Harve de gras
I know there are the flats north of the channel and a couple of islands about 3/4 of the way from turkey point. I think the islands are used by motorboaters for swimming. The island might make an interesting 1 or 2 hour stop on the way to harve de gras any problems with stopping there for a sailboat? We have an inflatible dingy. Bohemia river to Harve De Gras should be a single day cruise right?

Once we get to Harve de gras what are our options marinas?, anchoring? anything to do ashore?


Northeast
The chart shows mostly 4 feet across most of the area going to Northeast. My wife had wanted to go to this place a couple miles south of Northeast. Is north east out of the question with my draft? As I remember it was a long way up to northeat is it worth going there?

Sasafras
I know there is the georgetown inn all the way in south of the 213 bridge. Besides that is there anything else up the sasafras besides the marinas. are there any anchroages?


Betterton
This has a nice beach. I think there is a dock that extends out into the water but can you stay there overnight? what about the depth? any anchorages?

That about as far south as I have gone via sunfish but I would like to go furhter during this week.

What about the following places still pond, worton creek, fairlee creek, rock hall?

Never been to annapolis by boat. Is this out of the question in a week.

I have chartered out of rock hall and gone south but not stayed in rock hall.

I have 7 days. It will just be my wife and I. I am not interested pulling 50 mile days. Ten to 20 miles is more like what I am shootting for. My motor is not very powerful and will only do 4 knots. I would stay on the hook the whole time but the wife is going to want to a marina every so often. Again I am ok with eating on the boat but she going to want to eat out a few times. Since this is august I need to consider safe places to hide from the enevtible thunderstorm. We were on the hook during 65 mph winds in a not so sheltered spot when we chartered out of rock hall and in 35 mph windws on our mooring 2 weekends ago. Nether of which I would like to repeet.

My first thoughts are go to harve de gras the 1st day beyond that I am open to suggestions.
 

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Harve de Gras and Sassafras are close to home for you and you can do that anytime. My suggestion is to travel "down " the Bay. 20 mile clips are as follows.

First stop could be be Still Pond or our favorite, Whorton Creek. Which ever one you donrt hit going down...anchor in on the 6th night comming back. Thats less than 20 milews or so from Bohemia

Second night could be Rock Creek (where Chef37Tartan ) and I keep our boats or Rock Hall. Again 20 miles and hit the other one on your way back on night 5. Rock Hall has a great Crab restaurant.

Third Night could be the Magothy and Eagles Nest or Mill Creek with Cantlers Restaurant

Fourth night- Annapolis

Fifth Night- Rock Hall

Sixth Night Still Pond/ Whorton Creek.

Also there is the Chester and St Micheals as another alternative to the Bay with a trip through the Narrows.

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Forget about the Northeast River with your 4.5' draft. There's not much in the way of anchorages or marinas available.

Havre De Grace has Tidewater Marina otherwise no place to anchor out and be comfortable. It's a nice little town with a couple of resturants and an very good ice cream shop.

The Sassafras River has a number of places you can drop the hook as well as several marinas in Georgetown. Forget Betterton. While they have a town dock is so loaded with bird crap that I wouldn't set foot on it. A nice place to anchor is just past Ordinary Pt on the South side of the river, just outside of Turner Creek. You'll also find a number of boats to your right just inside the No Wake Zone prior to reaching Georgetown. Beware the depth goes from 20' to 5' suddenly. It's a sandy bottom with decent holding.

Still Pond is a nice place to spend an evening or two. There's Still Pond Creek to the far left after entering. Do not try to go in. It takes local knowledge and is very shallow in parts. Instead stay in Still Pond itself and tuck as far in past the western point of land. Getting in past the point helps block the wakes from the barges running outside in the channel. There's apx 8' of water throughout the anchorage.

Worton Creek is one of our favorite spots. It's open to the west which will provide you with some beautiful sunsets. The closer you anchor to the mouth of the creek, near the red marker, the less you'll deal with wakes from boat traffic. Note that traffic settles down at night and you should sleep peacefully.

I would pass on Fairlee Creek. It can be difficult to get into as the channel twists a bit. Additionally it's a hot spot for the muscle power boat boys and girls and can get crowded and noisey.

Rock Hall if you choose to go further south is a nice town with a number of marinas. Too many options. Ask for more info if you think you'll stop there.

Good luck and have fun.
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Would suggest that you pick up a copy of the Guide to Cruising the Chesapeake Bay (spiral bound - published by Ches. Bay Magazine). It has lots of good info for cruisers including detailed info on entrances to creeks and shoreside stops. If you want detailed info on anchorages there is Shellenbergers Cruising the Chesapeake: A Gunkholer's Guide. Both are wonderful helps to cruise planning. We keep a copy of the spiral bound one on the boat and take Shellenberger whenever we are out for longer than a couple of days.

As far as your stated destinations, I agree with whoever said skip the easy overnighters and go farther south. If this is your first time cruising, don't be too ambitious but there are as stated, a lot of good destinations that are easily reachable.

As far as local info. Worton has a nice anchorage, some good marinas and a decent restaurant. I don't think they let you overnight at the docks at Betterton but there is a nice anchorage in Turner's Creek. Georgetown is a long motor. Rock Hall is really 2 spots - a nice anchorage (and good marinas) in Swan Creek and a nice harbor around the bend.

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Don't forget the west side, although more populated it's got a few good spots:

Bodkin Creek - down near Prop's Restaurant and they'll pick you up for a taxi ride to eat.

Magothy River - many good anchorages - behind Dobbins Island, Broad Creek, Eagles Cove. Good restaurant at Deep Creek, good tiki-bar at Ferry Point.
If Annapolis is too crowded for you Mill Creek is a good alternative and has Kantler's to eat at.
 

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The docks at Betterton beach can be VERY rough. I would not make it more than a brief

I have sailed day trips in a sunfish to the first four of these destination but now I have a different perspective. I recently bought a 28 foot san juan (4.5 foot draft) currently moored at two rivers marina on bohemia river. I have taken off week of 8/24. I want to take my wife to some of the spots I visited by sunfish. We plan to go down to the boat on friday. Our marina is having a picnic day on saturday so we probably would head out Sunday.

Harve de gras
I know there are the flats north of the channel and a couple of islands about 3/4 of the way from turkey point. I think the islands are used by motorboaters for swimming. The island might make an interesting 1 or 2 hour stop on the way to harve de gras any problems with stopping there for a sailboat? We have an inflatible dingy. Bohemia river to Harve De Gras should be a single day cruise right?

Once we get to Harve de gras what are our options marinas?, anchoring? anything to do ashore?


Northeast
The chart shows mostly 4 feet across most of the area going to Northeast. My wife had wanted to go to this place a couple miles south of Northeast. Is north east out of the question with my draft? As I remember it was a long way up to northeat is it worth going there?

Sasafras
I know there is the georgetown inn all the way in south of the 213 bridge. Besides that is there anything else up the sasafras besides the marinas. are there any anchroages?


Betterton
This has a nice beach. I think there is a dock that extends out into the water but can you stay there overnight? what about the depth? any anchorages?

That about as far south as I have gone via sunfish but I would like to go furhter during this week.

What about the following places still pond, worton creek, fairlee creek, rock hall?

Never been to annapolis by boat. Is this out of the question in a week.

I have chartered out of rock hall and gone south but not stayed in rock hall.

I have 7 days. It will just be my wife and I. I am not interested pulling 50 mile days. Ten to 20 miles is more like what I am shootting for. My motor is not very powerful and will only do 4 knots. I would stay on the hook the whole time but the wife is going to want to a marina every so often. Again I am ok with eating on the boat but she going to want to eat out a few times. Since this is august I need to consider safe places to hide from the enevtible thunderstorm. We were on the hook during 65 mph winds in a not so sheltered spot when we chartered out of rock hall and in 35 mph windws on our mooring 2 weekends ago. Nether of which I would like to repeet.

My first thoughts are go to harve de gras the 1st day beyond that I am open to suggestions.
stop. My kid likes the beach. It is wide-open to the west and a lot of wakes come through. Deep enough for you, I am sure. A westerly thunderstorm would be pretty awful - shallow water and some reflections.
 

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If you choose to stop at Betterton be careful of the large rocks that are submerged at high tide. There are 3 to 4 white floats surrounding them but otherwise they are uncharted. They sit just slightly east of the town dock.
 

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So that makes them right off the beach?

Betterton correction!!! Sorry the rocks are WEST of the town dock.
I don't remember them and don't want to find them at night!
 

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They're more like boulders and as I said sit just below the surface at high tide. They placed white markers aorund them but if you aren't aware of their presence it could be trouble, especially at night.
 

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thanks

I am think of trying what chef2sail suggested while being flexible. This weekend I hope to finish putting in an automatic bulge pump which I started last weekend. I have a few other minor things I need to work on to get the boat ready. Thanks for additional info on still pond and worton. I think I need to get a cruising guide.

Thanks everyone
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Looks like my vacation plans may be squashed as hurricaine bill is heading to va,md,nj area right when I am set to beginour trip.
 

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If they have the track forecasted correctly it'll be a wet and windy weekend. We were planning on dropping the hook somewhere. It may end up being right in our own slip :(
 

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Could be worse - you could be headed around the Delmarva, as we are planning.

If they have the track forecasted correctly it'll be a wet and windy weekend. We were planning on dropping the hook somewhere. It may end up being right in our own slip :(
We were to be off-shore Sunday and Monday. I don't think so, now, but I guess we will begin, follow the news, and hole-up as need be.
 

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Everybody poo poos Fairlee. I find it entertaining to sit in the cockpit with a pair of binocs and watch the shenanigans. The entrance can be tricky, but if you mind the marks it's not that hard. I would avoid Friday and Saturday night, but the rest of the week it is pleasant. Even during the weekends most of the "boy toys" leave before sunset. Breakfast Buffet at Great Oaks on Sunday morning is great.
 

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Fairlee is only nice on weekdays. One weekends you will either be kept up by the loud music or watching 5 35 ft power boaters raft up on a 20 lb delta during a thunderstorm warning.

I have seen enough raft ups drag in this particular anchorage due to stupidity to keep me out of there most of the summer. Wharton is close by and a far more mundance, peaceful, and safe spot.
 

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Just got back last night. Things did not go quite as planned. but we had a good 5 days. Spent Saturday getting the motor to started and then getting ready. Attended the marina's picnic and then start out on Sunday. Getting to worton creek took most of the day. We enjoyed a meal while anchored opposite green point marina. After dinner we had some rain but were only on the outskirts of the storm. We saw a boat flying a french flag and a family speaking french. We got up early each day by 7.

The next day we sailed on to Rock Hall. It seemed to take forever to get far enough down to get pass swan point and then back up to rock hall. We were going to anchor by sailing emporium per the cruising guide however it was really shallow and we almost got stuck. So we ended up on the sea wall. We meet older French couple that helped us get docked. We walked to west marine hoping to get a replacement antenna for our handheld radio. no dice. Got ice cream on the way back with some of the local kids coming home from their first day of school. Took a shower in public bathroom next to the pool that was closed. We saw a guy adding a new tv antenna to the top of a mast in a bunson chair on a boat named canvas back. We stayed on the sea wall even though the sign said the park closed as sunset. I got out of there by 7:30 the next morning.

Our original plans were for the next day to be annapolis but by holding a wire to the radio we were able to get an update on the weather and decided to cut thing short due to bad weather. So we did a short hop over to rock creek and anchored between the 2 marina. We got there early so we took a swim and scrubbed the water line of the boat. We watched the boats go in and out. The next day headed back to worten creek. but first anchored out off the beach north of the creek. Blew up our inflatible dinghy and went to the beach for another swim and beach combing. The wind and waves had picked up and my wife had trouble getting back in the boat from the dinghy. We stayed in green point marina. That was the first time we had to get the boat into a tight slip. What a chore?
Lastly yesterday we took forever to get back to two rivers marina on the bohemia river the wind and tide was against. The wind was probably 10+ and so we were moving as we tacked back and forth but we just were not getting anywhere so about 2 I turned the motor on and we arrived back about 6:00. So back safe and sound. Thanks for all the suggestions.
 

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Sounds like you had a great time. Next time you are in Rock Creek stop by at the Maryland Yacht Club ( one of the two marinas you were anchored between- the one with the Gas Dock. If you went a little further back it is even more protected. Tartanchef37 is a little further up Rock Creek at Great Oaks. Rock is is a great place to anchor also ( Swan Creek). Be carefull crossing the Sandbar though. We usually go around the tip of it.

Whorton is one of our favorites as it is about a 5 hour trip from rock Creek in 10 knot winds. If it is too bumby on the outside we just anchor right in the creek where you took a slip. It takes time to get to know you new boat and anchor in tight quarters. After 35 years of sailing I still find it a challenge in some places with small fairways. Just when you think you are good at it mother nature pops a gust and you look like you are playing bumper boats with pilings while everyone watches. We all have been humbled.

Glad you had a good first voyage.

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