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Hi All--

We've got some pretty severe dock rash in our topsides (gel coat). Any tips on painting? No glass damage...

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Prime the edges that will get a coat of two part Perfection and the non skid with a coat of Kiwi Grip best stuff out there very easy to apply and loks,wares great..Jamestown dist has it now just pick your color...or tint it yourself but thy have nice selection...
 

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Why on earth would she have non skid on the topsides?
I inherited a similar proplem when I bought my previous boat. The PO had been instructed to paint bottom paint up to the boot stripe... which he confused with the cove stripe. Yup bottom paint right up to the rail. Gotta love boat terminology.

Re: painting hull? Plan on spending a lot of time prepping. White will hide imperfections better than colors. OTOH, this is your chance to go nuts with a new color!
 

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Thanks all!

Yeah - been scrubbing and scrubbing and scrubbing down looking for that holy grail of no more blue chalky dust.

Lotta Bristol owners on this thread!

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I'm not really clear what the nature of the problem is... dock rash I would normally take to mean abrasion of the paint or gelcoat. Can you describe the damage in more detail or post a pic?

When you said gelcoat I assumed white, but now you mention blue dust. Blue would normally be
Awlgrip...

PS can you add the boat model to your signature? Especially if it's a Bristol ;)

PPS, remembered my manners, welcome to the forum!
 

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A picture would help show the extent of the dock rash you are talking about.

The short answer is that paint is easier for most people to handle situations like this. Painted decks do need to be repainted more frequently than gelcoated surfaces though (approx. 10 years between repainting).
Repairing the gelcoat might be the best kind of repair but the skills involved prevent many of us from even attempting it.

Where did your boat ride out Sandy?

Welcome to sailnut.
 

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In my novice boat-painting state, I may have mis-spoken. I am SO just learning!

The top-sides are dark blue. The dock really banged them up, and through the scuffs and scratches, I can see several layers of paint. Underneath the dark blue is a robin's egg blue, then the white (which is the gel coat, right?).

The plan is to sand down the scuffed up areas, prime with Brightside Pre-Kote, sand down, then paint over with Brightside Sapphire Blue.

Does that sound like a reasonable plan that may work in a (hopefully awesome) way?

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INPUT!

PS: She rode Sandy through at the 79th Street Boat Basin, on the Hudson River in Manhattan. It was rough - all the marinas clear up the river are still in recovery from the storm surge. Lot of damaged and missing boats - it was a nail biter night for everyone. I feel very lucky.
 

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Its sounds like a reasonable plan with the only issue being how well the many old layers of paint are doing

If it is a in various stages of random flaking its not such a good plan

If it is in solid condition its a good plan

If the gouges are deep it can be tricky to fill and fair them well enough to meet your aesthetic appearance goal
 

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If it's a Bristol, and the topsides are a very dark blue, they might be Awlgrip Flag Blue which is what Bristol would have used at the factory. The egg blue might be primer, over the gelcoat, which is white, yes.

On the other hand if the job was done by a PO, the paint could be Brightside.

In theory, you can only repair the damage with with the same paint.

What I would do in your situation is get some Awlgrip Flag Blue, and the matching Brightside, and brush them onto a couple of hard-to-see spots, and see if a) they match, and b) nothing horrendous happens, like peeling or bubbling.

Based on that, you can repair accordingly.
 

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PS: She rode Sandy through at the 79th Street Boat Basin, on the Hudson River in Manhattan. It was rough - all the marinas clear up the river are still in recovery from the storm surge. Lot of damaged and missing boats - it was a nail biter night for everyone. I feel very lucky.
You can say that again!
My boat rode out Sandy on a mooring up the Hudson near the Tappan Zee bridge. Twenty out of 100 moored boats were totaled. Somehow our old girl came through in one piece.

Good luck with your deck painting!
 

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I am going to hijack this thread with a shaggy dog story (about paint) with apologies to the OP.

I purchased our sailboat 'Heron' in 2008 from the original owner in CT. She came with a brilliant recent Awlgrip topsides job among many other great attributes. We sailed her to NC that year where we live. For Hurricane Irene (2011) I anchored 'Heron' in our creek with 2 anchors and lines to 2 trees. I stripped everything off the boat and sealed her up tight. She did just fine riding out the storm (which hit right in our area and went right over us). However, she did receive some 'cosmetic' scratches to the Awlgrip topsides from debris. I lived with them for a year, but this year decided to have them fixed during a haul out for bottom paint, prop treatment and other items. They masked off the area, filled the scratches and sanded everything smooth.



Then the fun began. We first tried Awlgrip 'Whisper Grey,' but that did not match it was too light. So then we tried Awlgrip 'Kingston Grey,' it was too dark. So finally I called the Milford Boat Works, (absolutely great people and wonderfully helpful) and asked if they remember the color she was painted (in 2006). Yes, it is a custom Awlgrip color, 'Landon Blue!' And, they have some left, but they cannot ship it too us as UPS would require them to have a HAZMAT license which they really do not intend to purchase. So we went back to our paint supplier and asked them to mix up a quart of 'Landon Blue.' First, they claimed there is no-such color, but we were able to convince them to talk to Milford (did I mention they are great people) and dig up the formula for that paint. Which they did and sent us off a quart within a week (which is great for custom paint), except it did not match, the Blue in the can would not mix with the Grey in the can and so it came out Grey. Well, that must have just been a bad batch, so we sent off for another quart from a different supplier. It too came out much too Grey with too little Blue. Finally, we went back to Milford Boat Works (great people) and asked them to ask their paint supplier, who supplied the original paint, to mix us a quart. Well, they did and sent it to us (weeks are going by now) and it came out t o o blue! Going back to Awlgrip they said, no problem, just send us a 2" x 2" chip from the hull with the color on it and they will match it! Ain't gonna happin! So back to Milford (just wonderful people) and I asked them to send me a 4" x 6" card with the paint from their can on it, so at least I can see if it does match.

I received the card today and IT IS A GOOD MATCH, at least the best we have had so far. So I have 2 options; I can see if I can find someone brave enough to attempt to send me a quart of paint (which they can get from those wonderful people at Milford) thru the mail or UPS in such as way that it does not present a HAZMAT concern ( or knowledge thereof) or I can send a piece of my 4x6 card with the right color off to Awlgrip and have them try and match it. I am hopeful that one of these approaches will succeed sometime before June, because we really would like to sail in the Leukemia Cup Regatta (a great fund raiser for a good cause) that is held here that month.

I could always use a stencil to paint a Big Bird over the scratches for the time being. I quess I have had my "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" lesson!

cheers,
Ron
 
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