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My mistake on the opinion comment. I let the Vanguard and another thread (a newbie asking about which of two small boats would be better) bleed together. In both, you posted extensive replies. What can I say, after a while it all looks the same to me. I forgot that they were two different threads.
 

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J... but to me, Jeff comes across as condescending.
I've been following this great discussion, hopefully soaking up some knowledge, and I just can't see where Jeff is ever condescending. Knowledgeable, yes. Experienced, yes. Willing to post lengthy, detailed, well thought out replies, yes. Condescending tone, though? No.
 

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I have learned more from Jeff's posts than any other on the forum. I appreciate his thoughtful writing backed up with solid evidence. We might like different designs, but that doesn't mean we can't exchange opinions. Isn't that what the forum is for?:confused:
 

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"Big ships fine. Rowboats, long in tooth, make big noise, go nowhere."-Confucius.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

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I've seen that ad; I almost convinced my wife to take the short ride over to look at her!

Take a look at this example:

1968 Pearson Renegade sailboat for sale in Colorado

Seems to me that this is a classic case of someone putting an awful lot of time and money into a boat, and wanting to get some of that back. Regardless, check out that door to the head!
I see nothing wrong with putting this much effort into an old boat. Gives others an idea of what can be achieved. And if you are going to have the boat a long time, the value added is in the use and enjoyment of the work and money spent. Trying to get too much money out is a problem, but the same goes for almost all boats. This guy isn't the first owner in la la land with his asking price.

That said, when i look at the pic of the door to the head, what I see is a door jamb that is not square. Maybe a distortion in the pic caused by the wide angle lens used for the pic, but that compression post is right there. Hmm, how many old Pearsons have i seen with this problem? Not a biggie but first thing i noticed. The door is beautiful!
 

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Hi,
I have owned a 32' Pearson Vanguard for 15 years or so and can testify to the qualities and drawbacks. I raised a family of four cruising the coast of Maine aboard her and she always kept us safe and comfortable. The kids and the wife at the time, loved her. The boat is great in any conditions, will not point high though and will slow way down when beating too high into a stiff chop. In that case, stop pinching, fall off five points and the boat will sail quite well into a head sea. Initially tender by design (heeling on a CCA era boat equals an increased waterline), they firm up at 15 degress and stay there. One reef point at 15 knots of wind and the helm becomes well balanced.

Many have done long voyages, though they are certainly minimally configured for long distance cruising-the primary drawback being tankage-they only carry forty gallons of water in the original monel tanks. The atomic four is fine as long as you are sensible about fuel safety. Much is made of the risk of gas aboard-but most cruisers have propane tanks aboard for cooking (and sometimes heat) and think nothing of it. The old alcohol stove is a nuisance and best replaced with propane if you will be cooking aboard. A good sniffer and common sense will eliminate the risk of explosion for either propane or the A4. A diesel would be nice and I want one eventually, but the engine is apt to be worth more than the boat so the upgrade must be well deserved.

The interior can be upgraded pretty inexpensively. The hull deck joint will leak if not resealed, but that is not a difficult job. Watch for soft decks-mine need work, but that in no way stops me from using the boat-its just a project somewhere off in the future.

Boat heaves to perfectly, which is great when a kid needs attention or you just want to wait out some weather or even for meal preparation underway. Turns on a dime, but backs up like a drunken elephant. She will handle the big stuff with grace and sails fine in light airs as long as you don't pinch. Lots of room for upgrades like a furler and self tailers-all of which are not necessary, but fun and useful to add over time. If the one you are considering is in good shape, $5K for a bullet proof classic designed by one of the worlds most famous naval architects is a fair price. You can do the upgrades if and when you want over time-its a low cost entry point for a minimal safe cruiser that you can upgrade to whatever level you like or need over time. There is a great users group on yahoo that has 400 members who share all kinds of information about thier ships. Search yahoo groups and request membership-you'll be able to see photo albums of dozens of boats and all of the upgrades they have made over time. The group is very well moderated. Best of luck.
Jim
 

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Jim, I’m looking at a 65 vanguard. The vessel looks great but it’s been on the hard for 3-5 years. The rudder is made up of 3 planks and has separated. The owner says it’s dried out and will firm up in the water. I think the gap is too big for shirking. Looking for videos or something for a fix
 

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Jim, I'm looking at a 65 vanguard. The vessel looks great but it's been on the hard for 3-5 years. The rudder is made up of 3 planks and has separated. The owner says it's dried out and will firm up in the water. I think the gap is too big for shirking. Looking for videos or something for a fix
I just looked at Jim's profile, and he hasn't posted here since 2017. Hopefully, he's still lurking about, or someone else has some suggestions. Is the wood otherwise in good shape? How wide are the gaps?
 
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