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Here is a picture of what i am talking about...


I plan on replacing my rode in a month or so, but I am afraid that it being moored 365 days it will chafe again. Would an Amsteel loop tied to nylon be a better idea?
 

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As we do not use marinas or tie up to docks, except to take on fuel, we don't that problem, but we use fire hose as chafe gear through the bow chock for our anchor snub and have yet to have any chafe at all on it. We've well over a thousand nights on the snub in various conditions, perhaps it would work equally well for you.
We get used fire hose from any local fire station for free.
It might also help to tie the line around the cleat, rather than use a loop.
 

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A picture from a little more distance would provide a better idea of the direction of the loads on the cleat. Is that a mooring pennant attached to the cleat using an eye at the end of the pennant? You could use a pennant with some extra length without an eye and varry the spot at which it is tied off.

The cleat itself looks a little rough. Ever think about replacing it with a polished stainless or bronze cleat with more rounded edges?
 

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Is this your anchor rode, or a mooring/dock line? I also use used fire hose for chafe guard like Capta and it works great. It looks like the loop is wearing from rotating around the base of the cleat, you could prevent most of it by taking a round turn around the base and then making three figure eights before cleating it off.
 

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Deck needs paint...

Properly tying to the cleat might help by reducing the movement.
 

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We tie to a dock all winter and this winter has been bad with 3-4 weeks of winds between 25 and 45k so a lot of pressure on it. We do not loop it but tie it off on both ends. Looping with cause the line to move a bit and moving a bit will cause chafing. Even through some of the lines we have have loops in them the only time we use the loops is in going in for fuel, pump outs or short term stays.
 

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Go to your nearest fire station. Bring food or libations. Politely ask for some used firehose.. Stuff works great. Where I am now need to thread two lines through a timble which is the end of the mooring pendants. Some areas do not permit anchoring. The bobstay would chaff those lines. Since having firehose given to me by a fellow cruiser there has been no chaff and not even wear on the firehose.
 

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This is a permanent mooring, and the loops are for ease of tying up. As some of you have mentioned the chafe is caused from the loop rotating around the cleat base.
Will firehose actually help in this instance?
Can you provide a picture of how you guys are using the firehose?
Do you guys think an Amsteel loop would hold up better in this type of installation?
 

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Rather than thread the loop through the center of the cleat just drop it over the two horns of the cleat then close the loop by lashing a small line to prevent the loop from popping of when slack. Many pennants come with lash line integrated into the base of the loop.

Chafe protection is more typically used where the line exits the boat through a chock not on the cleat.
 

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BTW- when using a cleat if line diameter allows you will get much less chaff and no issue of loop,jumping off if you thread loop through center of cleat and then around horns. Believe that's why they put two posts on many cleats so you can do that.
 
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