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I am under contract for a 31 Bombay Clipper in Jacksoneville, FL.

This is the ad on yachtworld.

1982 Bombay Clipper 31 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

The survey was supposed to be on Monday but the seller went to start it on Friday and ran into a problem. The starting solenoid caught fire... No major damage to the boat but it has postponed the survey.

I live in NJ and saw the boat when I was down there for work earlier in the year. So I have only seen it once and am not able to go down for the survey.

Assuming the survey goes well, my plan is to sail the boat from Jacksonville, to West Palm over the week of Thanksgiving. Then spend a couple weeks on her in the winter.

Anyway, that's my plan! I've been boatless for too long now. Just sharing with the group.
 

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Nice lookin' boat, hope all goes well with the survey. I would try to be at the survey as that is very important, although a good surveyors report will be a road map to any problems.
Gluk with the sale and sail... Keep us posted.
 

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Looks nice in the pics. I'm trained over a lifetime to look for BS in ads. If I'm not mistaken, its motor hasn't been produced for nearly 20 years, yet it says it was "repowered". An overhaul at best, if I'm right. Be sure to know what that even means, there are no standards. The motor is probably half the value of what you are buying.

Still, looks pretty. Best of luck.
 

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But there are so many boats in our area! nice boat just the same, wishing you good luck
 

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Minnewaska,

Thanks for the heads up. I'll certainly look into what they mean by that. The ad says that there are only 500 hours on the motor, so it would be good to know what they had done to it 500 hours ago to consider it rebuilt.

Denise,

There are so many boats up here! I thought it would be nice to have a boat in FL for our NE winter for a season. Plus the adventure of sailing up the coast was tempting also!
 

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Looks nice in the pics. I'm trained over a lifetime to look for BS in ads. If I'm not mistaken, its motor hasn't been produced for nearly 20 years, yet it says it was "repowered". An overhaul at best, if I'm right. Be sure to know what that even means, there are no standards. The motor is probably half the value of what you are buying.

Still, looks pretty. Best of luck.
If I'm not mistaken, BC31s only came originally with Yanmar 2QM15 (raw water cooled) engines. At least that's what it said in the brochure I had when I sold my BC31 a couple of years ago. So I would agree, it has been repowered at some time. Agreeing with Minne it could have been yesterday day or yesterdecade and really means nothing. What does matter is the current condition of the engine. I lucked out, just before I sold my boat I came across a fresh rebuilt 2GM20 from a reputable diesel shop in Florida for less than a boat buck. It was a no brainer to replace my original, and still running fine, 2QM15.

I would have your surveyor take a hard look at the cabin top at the base of the mast and really closely inspect the ends of the compression post. They have been known to be an area that can be problematic. My compression post had been replaced with wood before I bought it. I looked at another Bombay that had a sagging cabin top and knew what the cause was. It's not an expensive or difficult fix, at least compared to a new motor, but it might be a bargaining chip in the purchase if it is not looking good. Also take a really good look at the water and fuel tanks. I ended up replacing my water tank due to corrosion. The fuel tank didn't look much better but never leaked so it wasn't touched.

Good luck. I had so much fun on my Bombay and hope you do on yours too.:)

You might also read what was written here if you haven't already. http://www.sailnet.com/forums/orphan-brands/40371-bombay-clipper-31-a.html
 

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FarCry, I'll certainly let the surveyor know about the weakness in the cabin top/compression post. How is you're old BC31 doing? I had actually talked to you briefly about it when you had it up for sale! I've read as much as I can about the boat here in this forum and any other references I could find. Can't wait to have a fat slow boat to go adventuring on!

TQA, I look forward to the day when I can get a boat of that caliber! How do you find the quality of a Caravel boat?
 

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Chadfunk48, She is doing fine. I see her all the time in the same slip I kept her in. The new owner takes her out a couple of times a month. A couple of weeks ago we were in the same regatta and Far Cry was in position to win the whole thing, again, but they pulled out to get a very ill crew member to shore.

Now that you mention it I do recall some communication with you when she was for sale. The new owner is the first person to officially look at it and bought her on the spot. Good luck with your purchase.
 

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Agree that if anyway possible, you need to be there for the survey. Four eyes are always better than two. Every survey I've had, I always saw something I asked my surveyor for a second look. Also, there's a lot of conversation between buyer and surveyor that won't show up in the report.
 

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. My survey was postponed due to engine issues.. (the ignition coil caught fire during the starting of the motor). Repairs have been done and the survey should take place tomorrow. I hope this isn't (but know it probably is) indicative of how infrequently the boat was used which can reek havoc on a vessel just as much as anything else. Hopefully she's in good shape otherwise... I'll have the results this week and we'll have to go from there!
 

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Have you determined what "repowered" means yet?

Remember, a survey can't do much more than assess current condition. Only the story of how she was used, maintained and cared for will tell you how she will stay that way. In other words, the survey may say everything works, meets code, etc. However, stuff could break the next morning.
 

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Haha, Yes. Sea Dog, is much better than the alternative. I'm actually quite fond of the name.

Minn,

According to the current owner it was re powered about 10 years ago and has 500 hours on a rebuilt (new gaskets and parts, not machined) volvo. Since then it has just been used to putter around the protected waters around Jacksonville, FL with no long distance cruising.

The survey came back with not major issues. No soft spots, blisters on the hull. Some blisters on the keel. Major systems all in working order.

I'm going to go through with the purchase next week!
 

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Ok, since my last post. I've closed the deal on the boat so I officially own S/V Sea Dog. Just got back (to NJ) from Jacksonville where I spent a long weekend getting to know the boat. Sailed Sat-Sun in the St. Johns river and had a great time! The boat sailed and motored great on our first shake down. I could not be happier with the boat... getting on that plane to come home yesterday was hard. really hard.

I'm going to be moving the boat from Jacksonville to West Palm in a couple months. There will be myself and two other adults who are competent sailors. (Although I think we'll take the ICW the majority, if not the whole way, so sailing may be a luxury.) Any advice on places to stop or things to watch out for along the way are always appreciated! (Of course I have up to date charts and GPS, safety gear, reliable VHS, and all the important stuff... like rum)
 
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