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Random thoughts on maintaining your own boat

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With the new season upon us in the Northern Hemisphere, many of us are engaged in commissioning our boats. It is that time of year when flowers bloom and sailor's hearts turn to sailing. Growing up Dad and I would spend some of our winter weekends and evenings working on boat stuff at the house. . With the advent of spring we would spend out spring weekends installing the gear and casework bought or built over the winter, and prepping the family boats for the season ahead.

Back then, there was never a sense that we should farm this work out. It was all part of owning a boat. We learned about the boat and ourselves by doing new tasks we had never done before. We improved the boat by the things we upgraded or repaired. Dad's workmanship was exemplary. I always tended to move too quickly to achieve his excellence.

Certainly there were times and tasks that Dad did have the yard do as the demands of business sometimes prevented him from doing some particular pre-launch task. We had a joke between us based on an incident that happened one year early in our growth as sailors. That year Dad ran out of time to varnish the wooden mast and boom on our boat before she was scheduled to be launched, so he had the boatyard do it. We were at a yacht yard with a great reputation for high quality work. In the car as we drove down to the boat after the varnish work was done, Dad said with grave respect, "Now we will see what a professional varnishing job looks like."

Once in the boatyard we made a beeline to the spar shed to see how the mast and boom came out. Compared to our typical job, it was not very well done. There were visible brush hairs and brush marks, dust and holidays. From then on, when one of us did a less than ideal job on something, the running gag was "That sure was a professional job of it."

For us, and for many sailor of my generation, it was simply taken for granted that by and large, and as much as possible, we would do our own work on our own boats. It was a basic mores that approached an ethical imperative.

But more and more, I run across people who began sailing and grew up in a time when ‘normal folks’ didn’t maintain almost anything in their lives. It is not that I am judging or blaming folks who don’t do their own maintenance. After all, I grew up in a different time when fixing and maintaining your own cars, boats, appliances and so on was more normal. But obviously times have changed. Truthfully, for example, I must admit that I have not worked on my own cars in decades.

And part of this shift is that boats and boat gear has become way more complicated and less easily self-maintainable. Boat yards are much more aware of pollution issues and so restrict what owners can do. Some products are only supposed to be sold to professionals or at least require specialized knowledge and tools. Even supposed plug and play systems like NEMA 2000 wiring isn’t exactly plug and play without spending time learning how it is supposed to work and what wire types, connectors and converters are required, or once installed aren’t the the easiest to troubleshoot.

Yet, it strikes me that a boat owner pretty much needs to know how everything on the boat works to be able to troubleshoot an issue mid-cruise or passage. I admit that purposely own very simple boats to maintain and if I don’t know how something works I either learn how it works or don’t put it on the boat. (That is the lame excuse why I still have an antiquated alternator and charging system).

Locally, I find myself coaching all kinds of really smart people on how to maintain their boats. Once we go through it one time, they get it. But before that, no one has showed them how to do it, so it remained a mystery to them.

Sometimes this is really basic stuff like pumping out a holding tank, hooking up a shore power cable, tying on a fender, or winterizing a water system. (Those are all real cases but to be clear, I do not mean that as a criticism of these people in the slightest.)

My esteemed and accomplished colleague, MarkofSeaLife often makes the case that it is easy to learn to sail. I agree on some level that for some people, maybe even most people, it is easy to develop enough basic sailing skills to own a boat and sail her. It is all of the other stuff associated with sailing and boat ownership that I wonder about.

My wife will tell folks that there is almost nothing too minor for me to overthink it. Maybe this is just another case of me overthinking this. But maybe not.

Respectfully,
Jeff
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I reached a point in my life where I am no longer willing to sand bottom paint or sling a heavy polisher over my head for days. So I pay for this work now. Gladly.

The number of yards that allow one to do their own work are vanishing quickly. It is getting very hard to find them now.

I can count on one hand the number of professionally done jobs that were better than I can do. And those jobs involved expensive or extensive equipment and techniques like welding that I don't possess. Otherwise, I have developed through experience deep, deep distrust of "marine professionals".

Mark
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It was a combination of my work and the yards work for me. I did all the usual maintenance: Bottom paint, wax, winterize, commission etc. Plus all the little odds and ends. I stripped the keel and barrier coated it.

When it came to more skilled work, that I'm sure I could have managed, but it would have taken me much longer, I would have the yard do it. ( I had a good yard) My reasoning was that I just took on extra work for clients, doing what I did best and let the pros do what they did.

When I replaced bulkheads, I took all the cabinetry apart and put it together, cleaned and polished the chainplates but I let the yard tab in the new bulkheads. I removed the water heater and let them put the new one in. it took both the mechanic and I to remove the transmission, but I let them put the new one in. I was never disappointed with their work, until the last season when I had them paint the bottom for the 1st time. It was the 1st time in over 30 years that I didn't do my own. It was just an ok job.

Regarding cars, the last car I worked on was my 350 chevy engine - when they had spark plugs and distributors ;-) I can still put air in the tires though!
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I couldnt afford to pay someone to fix everything that breaks on my boat. And Im the kind of person that once I discover something wrong it has to be fixed. Its like dirt under fingernails. But there are a lot of folks in the marina that dont do anything themselves that I can see. And it sort of shows. Some things I choose not to do- Like bottom paint. I wont be doing that next time. Ive got to do a spring varnish on the cap rail, but so far I still dont mind doing that. I guess its nice to have options. Sometimes people will say they dont have the tools. But thats not a valid excuse. Saving the labor cost of a job will quickly pay for tools, and in most cases you still come out ahead. This weekend Im putting in an inverter. Its taken a ton of research and planning, but Ive learned a lot as well. If you dont know how to do something and you dont have someone you can ask personally, there is a vast amount of info on the web. Including this forum.
When I was as school I worked Thursday nights, saturday mornings and all school vacations at an Auto Electrician shop pulling off alternators, starter motors and batteries.
After about 2 years Kevin, the owner, said to me nicely "You have no mechanical skills whatsoever". I said I have excellent skills I take alternators off cars all day!" He asked me "what direction does a nut come off a bolt" ... I proudly said "Anti-clockwise.".
He said "Yes. Thats the point. You have to know, because someone with mechanical skills just puts his hands on it and undoes it."


I would be an absolute fool to do the complex work on maintaining a boat.

I worked my butt off at university and in work so that I do not have to pull toilets out of boats in my retirement.

:)

Or paint toxic chemicals and inhale the fumes, or sand toxic chemicals off fibreglass and snort the dust. :)

Maintenance has nothing to do with sailing. :)


Mark :)
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The way I look at this (from the perspective of my boat)... I keep every system, hull and so in in good working order. Springtime is really a time to clean /polish. I pay the yard or workers to do what I consider "grunt work" sanding, grinding, polishing painting, waxing, cleaning exterior teak. In the past I did everything because I didn't want to pay and I had a sense of satisfaction when the job was done. These days I am not interested in that sort of satisfaction. I will still clean and polish the prop and then paint it with (useless) anti fouling.
I've done all the system upgrades installations... added the auto pilot, engine drive refer, numerous electronics, hot water tank and pumps, batteries and 12v DC wiring... and so forth. My refer once developed a freon leak and I had a friend who is a refer mechanic repair and recharge it. I do all regular diesel maintenance but use a mechanic for anything more complex. I did install the engine drive refer and holdover plate in the ice box.... which was the most challenging project I did.
I think it's important for the owner to be able to take care of all the systems which means carrying spares and tools. Boat systems are all configured differently and it's not really a plug and play affair.
I am keeping the boat in the water year round and only haul for bottom work... painting every 2nd or 3rd year... cleaning the other years.
I like thinking work... problem solving... and abhor grunt work.
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Sometimes people will say they dont have the tools. But thats not a valid excuse. Saving the labor cost of a job will quickly pay for tools, and in most cases you still come out ahead.
I don't know about that. I've paid to have bearings pressed out/in with a hydraulic press, flanges machined flat with a mill, threads cut with a lathe, Tig welding, and other similar things that I'm pretty sure was way cheaper than buying those tools.

Mark
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Bad day for me to reply to this thread. A couple of years ago I laboriously refit an apartment and did other major work on our house before listing it. Pre-listing We had some developers look at at say it was over price, then one jumped at it for nearly full asking, $200k above what my agent suggested. I just went by the place, and it was entirely gutted, all my hard and proud work was just instantly thrown out. That was a bit of a bitter pill. And yet there are also strong positives to the events.

When we work on something, boat or house or novel, the value to US, we the laborer, comes from the satisfaction of performing the work; in the learning, the honing of a skill, the personal sense of achievement. Or it comes not at all for we can almost ever recoup the value of our time spent on such endeavors. If you want to make money, then there are less painful and more remunerative ways to do it.

I have this concept that work is a privilege, especially work that gives us something beyond monetary recompense.

Some build boats.
Some repair/restore boats.
Some sail boats.

Most of us are some amalgamation of the above in various mixtures. The correct portions to make the perfect potion vary person to person.
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Maintenance has nothing to do with sailing. :)
But it has everything to do with owning and cruising a boat to allow those relatively rarer times that it is sailed.

Mark
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But it has everything to do with owning and cruising a boat to allow those relatively rarer times that it is sailed.

Mark

Disagree. Long range cruising is about McGivering a solution and redundancy.



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Beautiful story Jeff. I too grew up with “we do our own maintenance.” Everyone did up this way.


I worked my butt off at university and in work so that I do not have to pull toilets out of boats in my retirement.

:)
Youre picking on me! I knew it! How did you know mom and dads 43 YO head died, and now replacing it is my weekend project? I did mention “let the yard do it” but not sure if he didn’t hear, or I was ignored.
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I was fortunate that I grew up with a dad, uncle, and grandfather that "worked on stuff". I didn't necessarily learn the actual skills from them, but the invaluable lesson that I learned was that a person can and should at least try. Of course, there are limitations necessitated by tools and certain skills. I too have seen many supposedly professional jobs that are a disgrace so I do my own work partly to save money, partly for exercise (Sailboat Crossfit!), partly for the sheer pleasure of it (replaced my 36yo Datamarine system with modern Raymarine NMEA2000 - totally fun). I can't say that there are more or less people these days that do their own maintenance. In the 70's, I worked in several boatyards when I was in HS & college. Many owners only showed up on weekends and did no maintenance - same as today. I remember a snotty lawyer replying to a comment of mine about something being an easy job that he could do. He said that he earned more in an hour than I would charge working on his boat for that hour. I remember thinking that come the weekend when he's not working, he could be saving money and getting some exercise and that his logic was flawed.
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Have been too busy stripping the varnish from my toerails to spend time online lately. Luckily the teak doesn't need varnish if we want to go sailing. Went out on the Wednesday evening race today. Wind from S at about 12 knots. Until it died, shifted to N, and started blowing up to 22, with a 15º temperature drop and rain that didn't stop until after the finish. Start was good but got hammered on the first leg upwind by boats with smaller jibs. Managed to recoup some on the last leg and corrected out to third. Sunny tomorrow: more varnish stripping.
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Over the years I've "upgraded" to larger boats, smaller boats, and larger boats again. Every upgrade involved less wood to maintain.
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Dad said with grave respect, "Now we will see what a professional varnishing job looks like."
Sometimes the only difference between a "professional" and a do-it-yourselfer is that they get paid. Assuming the person doing the work for you has any more ability than yourself is often unfounded. My son was a "professional" painter for a few months. The first day he started he was a professional painter.

That being said, I get not wanting to do everything yourself. The older I get, the more willing I am to let someone else do the dirty work, even if I know I could do it. (Drywall is a great example) My father was a farmer and great mechanic/electrician. He got to a point where he actually took his car into the shop to have the oil changed. I haven't gotten there yet, but I see it happening.

There will always be those things that are too important to risk someone else working on that you are already an unpaid pro at.

I just had a crazy somber thought run across my mind... If we are unlucky, we will end up having someone wipe our ass for us in the end. So, as Mark says, "just GO!".
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I do most of my own maintenance because I have no other choice. If I ran to the professional every time I hit a problem, I'd quickly be done with this life.

I do pay for expertise when I face something I don't have the skills to do, but grunt work is never in this category. My grunting costs a lot less than paying someone, even though I'd love to do so.
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I've learned many things while working on my boat in FL:

Don't do 'glass work in the Summer, unless you like 100+ degree temps while in a hazmat suit with curing epoxy dripping on you;
Things break on an old boat. $$$$ to have someone fix, or you can learn a new life skill (repairing the head);
Had an old MGB, so electrical work does not intimidate me;
Plenty of beer.
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Difference between actively cruised boats and seasonally sailed boats with a home base, is that the seasonal boats you have a lot of non-sailable time where the boat is there and inviting you aboard... and you have a decision to visit it and sit and do nothing, or to pull out the sandpaper.

An actively cruised boat, especially with my type of cruising, it is fully ready to go to sea, on a long voyage, every day.

Hurricane season starts in a few days and we just arrived in an unsafe port. This morning we top off the fuel tanks and water tanks, load emergency food... because ANY time of the day, 6 times per day we can decide to immediately leave here and race to the safer zone of Grenada or Trinidad. First thing I did when we arrived was plot the course to get the hell out at midnight on instant notice.

Thats the sort of thing I like in my life. The excitement and adventure of clearing into a new country today and doing an emergency bug-out tomorrow. One of "project-cruisers" biggest problems is they are always "waiting for parts". We never, ever, get put in a position where we are stuck somewhere waiting for parts. Marjories computer is in being fixed and the parts are taking an extra 2 weeks. She fully knows that, if something comes up, we leave without her computer, and pick it up in 6 months (its one of those special artists graphic tablet things)... Shock, Horror, she has to work on her old computer 😮

Seriously, we have friends whose whole cruising experience is waiting for parts.

The National Hurricane Center updates ever 6 hours at 5:00 AM EDT, 11:00 AM EDT, 5:00 PM EDT, and 11:00 PM EDT. Each update is read immediately and we assess if we must leave immediately. Our current route is only 220nms and can be laid in one tack, maybe even sprung a bump or two. I can sail it, or motor it. Motoring can be very important as sometimes wind disappears for days before a hurricane.

Can you go now at 11pm?

Mark :)
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Had an old MGB, so electrical work does not intimidate me;
Plenty of beer.
Had an MGA. I understand what you are saying. The reason the Brits drink warm beer is because Lucas makes refrigerators too.
Fred W
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These are certainly different times, though I consider myself to be lucky I started welding as a 7yo, have lapped valves by hand, whether or not I ever will again, and have been able to give a great sailing vessel and myself a second life which would have overwhelmingly exceeded the boats value, except to me. I/we all tend to out boats without a true accounting and percieved savings of labor costs. These duties put me way ahead of a potential loss column. Guess I'm just "Old School" probably before it was coined.
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