SailNet Community banner

1 - 20 of 30 Posts

·
Bristol 45.5 - AiniA
Joined
·
4,526 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Good luck with this but it seems a bit contrived since you will be spending more time doing land travel than sea travel and visiting many more countries by land than water. In our circumnavigation we went to about 40 countries and territories and we stopped pretty much everywhere there was to stop - we might have added another ten at most. By your count that leaves about 150 to be visited by land transport or airplane. Sailing around the world is fine but there is more than one possible route and you are much controlled by the seasons - tropical storms in several areas along with the monsoons in the Indian Ocean and South China Sea.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
21,765 Posts
Best of luck on your adventure. If you pull it off, I'm sure it will be rewarding. Do you mind a couple of questions?

Why does it need to be a record setting voyage, as opposed to just going where you feel like going? How would you know that no one has already done this or doesn't beat you to it?

What do you hope would be the motivation for someone to donate to the gofundme page?
 

·
Rainwatcher
Joined
·
439 Posts
Better to put the webpage together when you get back, not when you leave.

I'm quite certain you'll be able to tell us why very soon.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dianaofburlington

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,181 Posts
Sounds like a great adventure. Best of luck! What kind of a boat will you be using for this circumnavigation?
 

·
Fortuitous
Joined
·
338 Posts
I miss Rimas. That guy knew how to claim to set a record.

"Attention guys !. 107 miles to american samoa island that s why i do not stop on the christmas island i wanted to be in the book record in san juan 24"

"Merry christmas guys !. This island extremely friendly people soon will be news next week abaut my voyage 120 days at sea non-Stop 4500 miles will be in record"

"12 days strait no wind the world record i moving the mostly by current push me to hawaii wow the big suprised guys the nature is incredible what can do ."

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
21,765 Posts
Good luck Captain. I hope you accomplish your goal. It sounds daunting.

I understand a corporate sponsor's interest, if they think they would get enough exposure to justify the advertising value. Those are difficult to get, as they also need a degree of assurance that the mission is viable and the audience is strong enough. They need to have faith in you and either fund the entire trip or know you have the rest of the funding already.

I'm still not seeing the motivation of the general public to contribute to the gofundme page. I've sent money to a few of them. One was to help a friend of my niece modify her car so she could drive it. She had just graduated medical school, with tons of debt, and suffers from cerebral palsy. She has no use of her legs. She got a job as a doc at the hospital and could only get to it, if her car was handicap modified. That was compelling.

I've certainly had dreams, since I was 14. I bet we all have. Some have worked out, others not. I'm just not sure that's a compelling reason for someone to send me money they earned so they could pursue their own dream.
 

·
Administrator
Joined
·
7,167 Posts
I can assure you any donation will go directly to funding the trip, and I would be happy to show donors exactly what their money is used for.

And of course attempting to attract sponsorship, which is the only way the voyage will be possible, would be a joke in 2017 without a website.

I rarely check this forum

I hope to use a Mahe 36 or similar style of catamaran,

Another dude without boat, nor money, wants us to pay for his vacation.

Nor is he even a regular user if this forum.

Sorry, mate, but go do what everyone else on this forum has had to do to get a boat: get a job.


Mark
 

·
GreenasGrass
Joined
·
298 Posts
If you had a boat, you could make youtube videos and get a following if the vids are good enough. While there are plenty of sailing videos, not many are of high caliber.

It is going to be hard to attract sponsors based on a dream and no boat. Cats can pitchpole in heavy seas and costs a lot more. Had to back down from that one. Sailboats can pitchpole too but cats are more likely to wind up upside down and are very hard to right. I'm sure you know this.

Watch youtube and get some ideas? Happy sailing.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
4,239 Posts
I read through your website. Your go fund me campaign is asking for $85k. You have self identified as a Captain, presumably a boat Captain. I don't know how long you expect it to take to collect $85k from strangers, I think it might take a while.

Take a look at Payscale.com I have specifically chosen "Boat Captain" in the US has a Median salary of $98264/year. Even the bottom 10% make $46393/year. If you live frugally, even at the bottom 10% you could save up enough money in 3 years. I think if you were serious about meeting your goal, you could just work and make that money rather than rely on luck and the charity of strangers.

Better yet, if you really want to make some dough, get onto a ship with a terrible leave system, like a lot of cruise ships, even a junior officer can make a killing on those boats plus there are no living expenses.

When I was in my early 20's and didn't have any responsibilities, I took just such a job, after 8 months of working I paid off my student loan entirely, bought a fast motorcycle a 4x4 and took off snow boarding in the Coast Range for the next 6 months. I wasn't even an officer for that contract, I was quarter master. There are great opportunities out there for those willing to work.

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Boat_Captain/Salary
 

·
Fortuitous
Joined
·
338 Posts
Hopefully this turns into Rimas 2.0
This cat turned into a peepants after only a handful of reality was thrown his way. There's no way he has the enduring ignorance of a Rimas.

"The most ambitious voyage in a san juan 24 foot. Attention! guys this is not a blue water boat only for lakes sailing no engine no dinghy no money incredible."
October 6, 2014 01:41:30 GMT
14.3998°N, 149.6041°W
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
21,765 Posts
I've tried to ask politely, but haven't read an answer. What's the compelling reason someone should donate? I have a dream won't work, it doesn't work for me.

Call it criticism, if you like. It's intended as input. Sometimes hearing what you don't want to hear can save a ton of time that might otherwise have been spent on a better idea.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MarkofSeaLife

·
GreenasGrass
Joined
·
298 Posts
I suspect that your best bet is to find a boat owner who wants to do a similar trip but needs your experience and help. Develop a youtube channel and gain followers via good video and communication. Lots of people would like to follow the circumnavigation. Lots of people have youtube sailing channels where they ask for beer money and to be a Patreon patron (give donations). People must be donating beer money here and there. Probably small donations I would imagine.

Sailing around the world is something that 10,000 want to do vs 1 that does it.

If I had a blue water boat, I would be interested.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
276 Posts
Even if you had a suitable boat and all the money you needed, can a person even visit every country? I can't imagine North Korea being very welcoming, and I'm sure there are other countries that might not be cruiser friendly.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

·
GreenasGrass
Joined
·
298 Posts
Think he said the landlocked countries were out. He got spanked pretty good here, may have sailed elsewhere. His plans need a lot of fine-tuning. A boat would be helpful by my estimation.


Even if you had a suitable boat and all the money you needed, can a person even visit every country? I can't imagine North Korea being very welcoming, and I'm sure there are other countries that might not be cruiser friendly.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
122 Posts
This cat turned into a peepants after only a handful of reality was thrown his way. There's no way he has the enduring ignorance of a Rimas.
Whatever happened to that Rimas guy?? I remember reading through about fifty pages on SA, and that was only when he arrived in Frisco, having been blown slightly off course from the Horn, or something like that.

Did he make circumnavigation for magnificent by sailing world record and write book??
 

·
Master Mariner
Joined
·
8,370 Posts
As a professional captain who did hundreds of deliveries way back when the pay was a measly $2 per mile, I could BANK 10k in just a few months or less. Are you only a part time delivery captain?
You could be working on a commercial fishing boat in Alaska, or rig boats, earning REAL sea time and a sh*t pot of money and not have to beg strangers to fund your playtime. I just don't see how you expect folks to fund your playtime when you aren't contributing at least the lion's share. One need not be rich to attain one's dreams, but if one isn't, then one should at least be willing to put in a lot of hard work towards that end.
I bought my first big boat, a 50' Rhodes cutter, for cash at 22. I worked the West Coast trollers and Alaska crab boats through high school and beyond to fund my dream of a circumnavigation, which I'd had since I was about 8, after reading Slocum's book. That circumnavigation took 9.5 years and sailing became my profession.
By the way, only amateurs count miles, not professionals. The guy driving the Staten Island ferry can put a lot of miles under his keel every year.
Time to close down the website and get to work earning the money you need.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Arcb and aeventyr60

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,181 Posts
Even if you had a suitable boat and all the money you needed, can a person even visit every country? I can't imagine North Korea being very welcoming, and I'm sure there are other countries that might not be cruiser friendly.
That is the whole point of going for such a record. If it was easy, it would have been done long time ago.
If the dude gets discouraged by the bashing on Sailnet, he probably ain't the type that rounds the Horn.
 

·
Fortuitous
Joined
·
338 Posts
Whatever happened to that Rimas guy?? I remember reading through about fifty pages on SA, and that was only when he arrived in Frisco, having been blown slightly off course from the Horn, or something like that.

Did he make circumnavigation for magnificent by sailing world record and write book??
Free Boat #1: San Juan 24 Cesura. Wrecked in Alaska and abandoned.

Free Boat #2: San Juan 24 Pier Pressure. Drifted to American Samoa, called for help to get towed in, and abandoned the boat.

Free Boat #3: Rawson 30 Mimsy. His anchor line chafed through and was unwilling or unable to start the engine or SAIL THE BOAT. He drifted from Sausalito, through the Golden Gate, out into the Pacific Ocean. He drifted down to Monteray Bay and remembered that he had a radio, where he called for help. The Coasties towed him in to Monterey, where he got a couple free days of emergency mooring. Then the harbor master told him that he had to either get out or start paying, so he [obviously] got towed out again and drifted to Hawaii, where he has officially abandoned boat #3.

"I moved to my friends house ! No anymore living on the sailboat, more room and more quite place too."
31 January 2017

https://sailingfortuitous.com/rimas-adrift/
 
1 - 20 of 30 Posts
Top