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I'm looking at a Ranger 28. I like the lines and the equipment list is terrific. Is it a good racer? What's the quality like?
 

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An incredibly quick boat! I am currently completing a restoration on mine. It was way faster than I had anticipated. And the cabin has great accommodations!

I think, with its unique Gary Mull design, that it is the best sailboat of that size for the money!

Good luck!
 

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There's been a "restored" one in the classifieds of Good Old Boat for quite some time. Asking $10.5k
 

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I've spent a lot of time on a Ranger 28.. and some on it's 'cruisier' sister the R29, both Mull boats but very different.

The 28 is a very handsome boat but also very typical of the 70s IOR mindset, large J measurement and short E main, so relatively big genoas and spinns, with a main that's not much more than a 'trim tab' when you come down to it. Goes well upwind, indeed, but more tender than you'd expect with the beam and tumblehome - but the hull section is so 'round' there's not a lot of initial stability. Downwind it can be very exciting.. ours was an earlier model with an unbalanced rudder and it's was a virtual broach machine, in 20knots+ you could create your own calendar in a 12 mile race ;). Manageable but it can catch you unawares to start. We modified the rudder after a couple of seasons and it was much improved.

Decent interior and cockpit, structurally the only thing of note is the keelstub seems a bit under engineered for the bolt on keel, there are no floors or stringers whatsoever.

The R29 is a much cozier, more comfortable boat with better manners and probably a much better family boat. Not much slower than the 28, and even then probably mainly upwind...
 

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A sailor out there with Ranger 8.5 (build in Kent WA) experience ? Have not had a chance to speak to any one experienced with the R 8.5. She is frag. rigged PHRF 180 to 192. Sailed her for 2 summers now and had "sweet" success with WARHAWK last season.
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A sailor out there with Ranger 8.5 (build in Kent WA) experience ? Have not had a chance to speak to any one experienced with the R 8.5. She is frag. rigged PHRF 180 to 192. Sailed her for 2 summers now and had "sweet" success with WARHAWK last season.
Gerard
The OP seems to be referring to the Ranger Yachts 28 (Mull), Not to the Ranger 8.5 (Schumacher), from Ranger Fiberglass Boats in Kent WA. At least that's my take on it.

Different boats with nothing in common.

I remember Warhawk from the good old days, when I used to own and sail Ranger 20's and 24's. I had friends that raced and cruised their 8.5 Rangers.

Only odd thing about threads like this is framing the question around "racing" or "cruising" when in actual fact either of these boats makes a nice small (and fast!) cruiser. There is a Ranger 28 (Gary Mull designed) in our YC for a couple of decades, and it's a very good sailing boat.

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Thanks Loren and mine obviously is the Kent WA Ranger 8.5 with modified Choate 27 lower hull redone by Karl Schumacher. (i believe this was his first job as an independent Navel architect)
Awesome that you know Warhawk from it's earlier days racing the PNW, she has been in the Okanagan now for almost three years. The Ranger 8.5 is a great racer/daysailor and can sail to it's numbers, however for some reason it is a little sticky between 4.5 to 5.7 knots of hull speed and it takes every little tweak not to lose "ground". Once at 5.8 knots of hull speed (about 9 to 10 knot wind) she moves really nice, points well and wins races.
I have done as much research on the boat as I can, including speaking to the now very mature, production manager at the time and have a number of component drawings (sketches with measurements), which can be shared.
Hope another Ranger 8.5 skipper out there will respond.

Cheers, Gerard
 

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Hey Sailgone, I am about to be the proud new owner of a Ranger 8.5. I having difficulties finding finding much information about it. I'd love to connect.
 

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Just as a word of caution. Looked at a Ranger 28 and at first glance I was ready to write a check. Closer inspection found extensive soft decks. All the life line stanchions and bow pulpit had developed leaks and rotted out the deck core. The guy selling the boat, not the long time owner, seemed to intimate that that was a common problem with the boat. Boat had had very little use and spent most of it's life on a trailer somewhere in the mountain states. The moisture for the rot came from rain water.
 

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Just as a word of caution. Looked at a Ranger 28 and at first glance I was ready to write a check. Closer inspection found extensive soft decks. All the life line stanchions and bow pulpit had developed leaks and rotted out the deck core. The guy selling the boat, not the long time owner, seemed to intimate that that was a common problem with the boat. Boat had had very little use and spent most of it's life on a trailer somewhere in the mountain states. The moisture for the rot came from rain water.
Are you describing the "Ranger 28" from Ranger Yachts in California?
If it's the Ranger 8.5 built by Ranger Boats in Kent, WA, they did a very good job fitting out their boats and there should be no moisture problems from the factory's workmanship.
 

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Hey Sailgone, I am about to be the proud new owner of a Ranger 8.5. I having difficulties finding finding much information about it. I'd love to connect.
It is probably worth a try, but, Sailgone is more than likely... gone. S/He hasn't posted in 3 years. Maybe start a new thread. Welcome to Sailnet!
 

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Are you describing the "Ranger 28" from Ranger Yachts in California?
If it's the Ranger 8.5 built by Ranger Boats in Kent, WA, they did a very good job fitting out their boats and there should be no moisture problems from the factory's workmanship.
Not sure if you're still engaging with SailNet, but looks like you know quite a bit about the Ranger 8.5. I am looking at one on Lake Pend Orielle. It appears there are 4-5 of them on the lake all, I think sold back in the day by Gary Macdonald.

Can you tell me how long the 8.5 was being built? I understand they started making them in 1980. The visible difference between the 28 and 8.5 seems to be the hard edge of cabin on 8.5 where cabin is more rounded on the 28.

I'm wanting a crusing boat that will be comfortable and move along pretty good. 8.5 seems to fit that bill. The particular boat looks very clean and has been well taken care of.

Any thoughts/points I should be aware of?

I hope you're still engaged and can offer me some independent insights into the 8.5.

Thank you.
Peter S
 
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