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Greeting to all,

This thread is going to have multiple questions covering multiple areas of expertise so feel free to tackle one, many, or all of the questions. Thank you all in advance for your knowledge contribution!

I have been an avid traveler for the last 4 years and have to date raked up adventures in 3 different continents, 19 countries, and hundreds of cities. I began to realize that sailing would easily get me to the most destinations at the lowest cost per capita(as opposed to flying to each destination etc.) I am planning on setting sail from S California in 2013, while doing practice runs up and down the west coast or possibly out to Hawaii until then. My knowledge base for sailing is self admittedly VERY limited... that's where you come in!

So i have collected a list of questions that i believe will help me get started and also expand give me a direction to go. Here they are:

1. Catamaran or Monohull? Background info: Long term travel with a possible crew size of 4-10. What are the advantages or disadvantages of each?

2. Should i start with a smaller boat? Or should i practice on the one i want to do the voyage with? Background info: As i said dep est is 2013 so i have about 4 -5 years right now.

3. Crew size? Obviously it must fit the boat but is there an advantage to a bigger or smaller crew, what is the minimum i would want?

4. Are renewable energies available(solar panels, wind turbines etc.) and if so are they worth the cost?

5. I have heard of pirates, are there any places that veteran sailors steer clear of when voyaging abroad?

6. In respect to ship size, is there a general rule as to docking fees?

7. This question may seem worded wrong as i lack the background of vocabulary. Can you dock your boat anywhere? as in "drop anchor" outside of a port and take a smaller boat into shore rather than paying docking fees etc. for various countries?

8. Please answer this only if you know for sure. Are there any countries that do not allow (or the amount of red tape is so much that its not worth it) small sailing craft to enter their borders?

9. Are there any books or (prefferably websites) that are a good place to answer these question(s) or genre of questions.

10. Are there traditional routes that are defined as sort of "highways of the sea" that have been tried and true? Please keep in mind the original idea is to stop into as many cities as possible not just cover water.

11. I should have a budget of about 50-75k for the boat. (just me... more if i can find additional crew) and an additional 25-50k for the trip. or a total of 75-125k divided up whichever way it most practical.

Thanks to everyone who responds, I really appreciate it!
 

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I say take a few classes on sailing and try to get a crew position on a boat with a knowledgeable captain. That way you can see if you like it before buying a boat.
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A good book I highly recommend you get is "How to Sail Around the World" by recently deceased Hal Roth. There is no Bible, no instruction manual, but this book is inspirational and common sense. It will get you pointed in the right direction.

Crew of 4-10? Right away I think you are moving pretty far away from the whole concept of cruising. Just 4 people for more than a couple days would require a boat much larger than 'average' and expenses are going to be very high. You need an independent income to cruise like that. This is more like an expedition plan than a cruise. There are people in large yachts, 50' and bigger that sail the world on this model. Usually with some goal like "saving the whales" or "stop global warming" to get a little publicity going and some of them charge a hefty fee to go along with them. One of them just visited here. Check out his website at 69 NORD. Croisières à la voile, Expédition Around North America, croisières en Norvège et Spitsberg
--Saving the planet by spewing diesel fumes and ablative copper paint all over the pristine NW passage ;)

That said... you can always go it alone. Reid Stowe has been doing it for two years non stop now. 1000days.net - Home
 

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I say take a few classes on sailing and try to get a crew position on a boat with a knowledgeable captain. That way you can see if you like it before buying a boat.
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I have already been sailing and i do like it, never long term but I plan on stopping into as many cities as possible, so I really probably would not have that much time spent continuously on open water.
 

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A good book I highly recommend you get is "How to Sail Around the World" by recently deceased Hal Roth. There is no Bible, no instruction manual, but this book is inspirational and common sense. It will get you pointed in the right direction.

Crew of 4-10? Right away I think you are moving pretty far away from the whole concept of cruising. Just 4 people for more than a couple days would require a boat much larger than 'average' and expenses are going to be very high. You need an independent income to cruise like that. This is more like an expedition plan than a cruise. There are people in large yachts, 50' and bigger that sail the world on this model. Usually with some goal like "saving the whales" or "stop global warming" to get a little publicity going and some of them charge a hefty fee to go along with them. One of them just visited here. Check out his website at 69 NORD. Croisières à la voile, Expédition Around North America, croisières en Norvège et Spitsberg
--Saving the planet by spewing diesel fumes and ablative copper paint all over the pristine NW passage ;)

That said... you can always go it alone. Reid Stowe has been doing it for two years non stop now. 1000days.net - Home
Thanks, i picked up the book on amazon for less than 5 bucks, it also got rave reviews on the site.
 

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You should really do a search on here. This topic seems to come up every other month, or so it seems.
 

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Peter :
It's a while in the future, but crew variation from 4 to 10 is puzzling. A crew of 4 is probably about right for, say, a 36 ft sailboat, but a crew of 10 would need an enormous sailboat.

50-75 k will buy a decent boat, but you must have a bunch of other equipment for long-haul sailing. An autopilot, for example, is a huge advantage.

Piracy is a problem in the Gulf of Yemen!!!!, some parts of the Far East, and in the Carribbean in places.


Visit Scotland on your trip. No pirates there!
 

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but a crew of 10 would need an enormous sailboat.
What do you mean??

1 Skipper
1 Bowman
1 Piano
1 Main
1 trimmer
1 Genoa
1 Halyards
1 sail handler
1 tactics
2 rail meat / aids

That's 11, and my boat's only 42'...

Ignore this guy..go for it..he is Scotish...


50-75 k will buy a decent boat, but you must have a bunch of other
True, but don't expect to win...maybe if you get a really old J and race in Tijuana...they don't have handicap ratings in Peru..you can win there with a 50K boat.


equipment for long-haul sailing. An autopilot, for example, is a huge advantage.

WEIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! forget it....Raymarine makes a nice ST pilot that's not too heavy


Piracy is a problem in the Gulf of Yemen!!!!, some parts of the Far East, and in the Carribbean in places.
Yes..big problem..they touch the boueys, one protests, but they don't care..they are really pushy...besides, they get pissed off if you don't give them prority, especially on the last round marker...

Good news..not many carry spinnakers!! really... ask any one here...


Visit Scotland on your trip. No pirates there!
Visit Scotland on your trip. No pirates there!
Yes..yes...go to Scotland...don't come to Portugal...it's not nice, and with a 50K boat you don't have much chance at wining...

Maybe with an Optimist...but fitting 11 may be a bit of a chalenge
 

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2. Should i start with a smaller boat? Or should i practice on the one i want to do the voyage with? Background info: As i said dep est is 2013 so i have about 4 -5 years right now.
Peterb31,

Start with a smaller practice boat. Spend a few years on it learning how to sail. By the time you're ready to purchase the larger expedition boat, you'll probably be able to answer the rest of the questions yourself.

Good luck to you!
 

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Also, the best place to practice is Portugal.
 

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Peterb31,

Start with a smaller practice boat. Spend a few years on it learning how to sail. By the time you're ready to purchase the larger expedition boat, you'll probably be able to answer the rest of the questions yourself.

Good luck to you!
You beat me to it! That was almost verbatim the comment I was going to make! Or to put it another way: I second that remark!:D
 

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Also, the best place to practice is Portugal.

nah nah nah...Scottland is MUCH MUCH better...really..they have lakes and Scotish people (they talk funny)....MUCH better..

Portugal is hard to sail..you need to know how to do it....go North..really...

We have pirates...I forgot to tell you...
 

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There is a nice little harbor town in Portugal that welcomes all novice sailors. I forget the name -- but Giulietta is the harbormaster.:D :D
 
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