Why can't you set your sails past close hulled to point more into the wind than 30 to 35? My assumption...too much wind resistance and you make no progress. 2 faster to fall off and go faster than if you sailed slower into the wind.
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Re: sailing past close hulled?
I believe that the term that you are looking for is "close hauled"
The reason is that a fabric sail cannot create enough lift to propel the boat forward if it is pointing too close to the wind. You may be able to do this with a "wingsail," but not with a traditional sail. This should be taught this in ASA 101.
I believe that the term that you are looking for is "close hauled"
The reason is that a fabric sail cannot create enough lift to propel the boat forward if it is pointing too close to the wind. You may be able to do this with a "wingsail," but not with a traditional sail. This should be taught this in ASA 101.
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Re: sailing past close hulled?
Therefore, I am left to conclude that either: a) it wasn't covered, and the school did a poor job - this is one of the reasons why I do not like 1-week "Fast-Track" courses, b) it was covered and you didn't get it -- this is another reason why I do not like 1-week "Fast-Track" courses, c) your signature is overstating your credentials.
This is the internet - you are going to get some snark, and you should be able to deal with it, or you should go read a book in a corner. The guys over at SailingAnarchy would have chewed you up and spit you out if you posted this over there (and it would have been hillarious to the rest of us
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Most of the people on SailNet try to help others when we can. Mark's post above is a particularly good one, and echoes the article that I linked to when I mentioned the wingsail in my earlier post above. Unlike when I teach, we aren't paid to do this, and we can therefore pick and choose whom we wish to share our experience with. It is not a matter of being "snobby," it is a matter of trying to help those that are willing to learn, and are appreciatve of our effort. Your post #6 suggests that you've got your panties in a twist, so I'll offend you no more with my experience / advice. Welcome to "the list" :svoilier:
My point was that this topic should be addressed in ASA 101 as part of the lecture and on the water exercises. In fact, there are at least two ASA test questions on the ASA 101 test (64 and 99) that cover the term "close hauled." Your signature file suggests that you have attended 101, 103 and 104. By mentioning the specific course, you could refer to the book that you should have received as part of ASA 101, or your notes - if you have any. When I teach 101 I talk about this topic and introduce Bernoulli's principle and the Coanda effect. The fact that you have mis-spelled the term and are asking questions that should be covered in class suggests that you do not have a firm grasp of this topic.
Therefore, I am left to conclude that either: a) it wasn't covered, and the school did a poor job - this is one of the reasons why I do not like 1-week "Fast-Track" courses, b) it was covered and you didn't get it -- this is another reason why I do not like 1-week "Fast-Track" courses, c) your signature is overstating your credentials.
This is the internet - you are going to get some snark, and you should be able to deal with it, or you should go read a book in a corner. The guys over at SailingAnarchy would have chewed you up and spit you out if you posted this over there (and it would have been hillarious to the rest of us
).Most of the people on SailNet try to help others when we can. Mark's post above is a particularly good one, and echoes the article that I linked to when I mentioned the wingsail in my earlier post above. Unlike when I teach, we aren't paid to do this, and we can therefore pick and choose whom we wish to share our experience with. It is not a matter of being "snobby," it is a matter of trying to help those that are willing to learn, and are appreciatve of our effort. Your post #6 suggests that you've got your panties in a twist, so I'll offend you no more with my experience / advice. Welcome to "the list" :svoilier:
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@JoCoSailor - my background is that I took sailing for two years on the town lake in O'day Sprites as a kid. My mom signed me up to get me out of the house, and to stay out of trouble. The instructor was a sixteen year old girl that used to bark instructions at us from a rowboat. "You're luffing" she'd yell. "You're ugly" we'd yell back. I was a pre-teenage kid, and there was no chance that my family would ever get a sailboat, so I failed the written (name this part of the boat, name this point of sail, name this manuver) and sailing portion of the course - two years in a row!
For the sailing portion of the assessment each student would be rowed out to a boat alone, have to rig it, and have to singlehand the boat off the mooring, around a mark, and back to the mooring, pick up the mooring and de-rig the boat. Tiller in one hand, mainsheet in the other, and jib sheet between your toes! We would start about two minuites apart (the time that it took to drop off one kid and row to the next boat), and we were supposed to sail in a line. But I was impatient, and failed for passing other boats. Also I came in too hot for the mooring pickup and had to go around again (fail). These were not ASA or US/Sailing sanctioned lessons. This was 1970 and it was just a teenager teaching pre-teens, like many sailing clubs do today.
Thirty five years later, I was trying to get to know my 14-year old step-son better, so I enrolled both of us in ASA lessons in Boston Harbor. My son liked it, but I found that I loved it. My work at the time (computer networking sales and training) had me traveling a lot, and my doctor had me wearing a halter monitor because he was concerned about my health. I found that as soon as we would drop the mooring painter, any thoughts or stress from work would simply fade away. My doctor looked at the report from the monitor and asked "What did you do at one-o'clock yesterday?" I told him that I was probably raising the sail on a CAL 33. He replied that he could see the physical activity, and after that my heart rate was textbook perfect. "Keep doing that" he said. My son stopped after 101, but I continued on through 103, 104, 105 and 106. This was in 2005-2006.
I bought a boat after a long search (documented in ancient posts SailNet) in 2010. I earned my OUPV and became an instructor in 2013.
Sorry for the delay in responding. I have been out sailing with a friend in his O'day 192 on the Peace River for the past two days.
For the sailing portion of the assessment each student would be rowed out to a boat alone, have to rig it, and have to singlehand the boat off the mooring, around a mark, and back to the mooring, pick up the mooring and de-rig the boat. Tiller in one hand, mainsheet in the other, and jib sheet between your toes! We would start about two minuites apart (the time that it took to drop off one kid and row to the next boat), and we were supposed to sail in a line. But I was impatient, and failed for passing other boats. Also I came in too hot for the mooring pickup and had to go around again (fail). These were not ASA or US/Sailing sanctioned lessons. This was 1970 and it was just a teenager teaching pre-teens, like many sailing clubs do today.
Thirty five years later, I was trying to get to know my 14-year old step-son better, so I enrolled both of us in ASA lessons in Boston Harbor. My son liked it, but I found that I loved it. My work at the time (computer networking sales and training) had me traveling a lot, and my doctor had me wearing a halter monitor because he was concerned about my health. I found that as soon as we would drop the mooring painter, any thoughts or stress from work would simply fade away. My doctor looked at the report from the monitor and asked "What did you do at one-o'clock yesterday?" I told him that I was probably raising the sail on a CAL 33. He replied that he could see the physical activity, and after that my heart rate was textbook perfect. "Keep doing that" he said. My son stopped after 101, but I continued on through 103, 104, 105 and 106. This was in 2005-2006.
I bought a boat after a long search (documented in ancient posts SailNet) in 2010. I earned my OUPV and became an instructor in 2013.
Sorry for the delay in responding. I have been out sailing with a friend in his O'day 192 on the Peace River for the past two days.
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Thanks... I think participation in SailNet has become my proxy for submitting a weekly report
I guess that old habits are hard to break... or old dogs... whatever.
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