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OK, so I put the new seal in and it looks good.
Then I reassembled the steering. WTF!! On port rudder the top of the rudder hits the hull. :confused: (O'Day 40 spade rudder)
On starboard rudder it clears nicely.

Check that the rudder post has dropped down properly so the radial drive wheel is on the nylon spacer on top of the tube? Yup.

The steering radial drive wheel was reassembled with the pin through the stainless post so it cant have moved.

The only conclusion I can draw is that they bent the rudder post when they put it back in :hothead

Any other possibilities??
 

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Not a cable adjustment. It doesn't even hit the rudder stop on that side because it hits the hull first.

I was watching and they used the Sea-Lift to pick it up enough the let the rudder drop down so that the prop shaft would sneak past the rudder post.
When they lowered the boat back down a couple of the yard workers were helping the guy working on the boat to line up the shaft, but they had a block underneath and it looked like it came down on it at one point.

In hindsight I should have videoed it but I thought it was a simple thing to do.
 

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I've had requests for the name of the service company but I don't have enough posts to send private mail.
I'll hold off telling the list until the bill has been settled. So far they want $2880 for repairs, but maybe they'll be reasonable. :laugher

I chose the marina partially because they have a fancy boat lift that doesn't use slings. We were in a marina that had a Travelift and saw numerous instances of slings lifting on prop shafts. I wonder how many of those boats ended up with a bent shaft. :(

The rudder is bent slightly but they won't admit responsibility because there is no visible damage to the fiberglass portion of the rudder assy. When I ask how else it could have been bent I get a blank look and some mumbling that something else must be causing the binding. I loosened all the bolts on the radial drive and it helped a tiny bit but it is clearly changed from before. It used to touch very slightly on the other side, not enough to mark the gel coat, now it clears that side by 3mm.

I don't have the finances to hire a lawyer and don't really want to go to small claims court but don't know what other choices I might have. I assume the yard won't splash my boat if I haven't settled with the repair shop.
 

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No, it's in Vancouver, relatively new and the service company moved here from Granville. I haven't asked many people for recommendations but usually they recommend places on the island.
 

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Captain's Cove was where I saw them lift on the shaft. They always dropped it back down but often had trouble getting the slings in the right spot.

I'm not sure how to avoid paying whatever I can negotiate unless the marina will splash me without settling with the repair shop. (Independent businesses)
 

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Lions Gate Marina seems pretty professional and there machine is impressive.
But the service company, Oceanos Marine Solutions, offered no solution. They insist that the rudder must have been like that when it was taken out of the water. Utter BS but I can't prove differently.
The fact is the replacement of a PSS seal escalated into a new shaft and all the attendant issues with removing the steering radial wheel to drop the rudder etc was all caused by the worker not knowing how to drill stainless.
It's not rocket science: slow speed, real cutting oil, cobalt bits, proper pressure and don't touch it until the bit is up to speed. He put the dry drill bit against the retainer, pushed hard and cranked to full speed. From there it was all down hill.
From a business point of view it makes sense. Put the worst guy you have on the job so it mushrooms into lots of expensive extras. All with no up front price. The slower he goes, the more they make, the more incompetent he is the more they make.

Its a $3500 mistake that I won't make again. :(
 

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Thanks for the interest. I paid the bill and splashed the boat yesterday. Powering in the breezy conditions yesterday didn't show up any problems.
My new PSS seal is working great and new sea cocks (Trudesign) that close give peace-of-mind.
The rudder isn't bent much but it really p!ssed me off when he said it must have been like that before.
For now I'll trim a couple of mm off the top of the rudder and live with it until next haul out and put this episode behind me. Based on past experience in small claims court a "he said, she said" case would probably end up as a 50-50 split or better but I don't need the grief and would rather devote my energy to the never ending boat projects.
As a side note, Lions Gate Marina is well run but there is lots of dust in the air from the wood fiber loading on one side and the sulfur loading on the other.
 
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