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I bought a Catalina 22 and am going through the stuff that came with the boat. It has two anchors, one is a 13 lb Danforth-style anchor that I think is from West Marine. It's on 4' of chain and 160' of nylon. This seems like reasonable tackle for the sand and mud around here, and 160' seems ample.



The other anchor is a 10 lb "Navy Type" anchor which I've never seen before.

Navy Type Anchor Aluminum Finish
Roloff 10NAF Navy Anchor 10Lb Alum Finish
It has 4' of chain, 80' of nylon, and looks completely useless.


Has anyone used this kind of anchor? Would anyone use this to anchor a 2300 lb 22' boat?
 

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I'd use neither personally. But the navy anchor does have a purpose, I just literally do not remember the conditions it does best in.

I'd go with a 10lb claw/fast set equal style anchor personally. UNLESS you are in literal mud ALL the time. without a current to twist you around and lose the initial bite of the anchor.

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Depends what you are doing. If overnighting neither is suitable, if just for lunch then the danforth might be fine. The navy is not too useful.

I bought a Mantus anchor since I cruise a week at a time every summer. Best boat bucks I ever spent.
 

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I'd lean heavily toward the danforth. I recently bought a Precision 23, and it came with a West Marine danforth style anchor. My previous boat was a 31 foot Catalina that we used to cruise all over Lake Michigan, so we equipped it with a Manson Supreme.

Given the way I intend to use the Precision 23, I see no reason to buy a new anchor. I'm not planning on any overnight anchoring or extreme conditions. Just dropping the hook in familiar waters for lunch and swimming.

How are you planning to use your anchor? If your demands are low, like mine, I see no reason to spring for anything better.
 

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Second the above statements. The danforth should be fine for a lunch anchor, and the navy one is only good for about a second, maybe beach anchor.

I also agree that the 25lb mantus seems like a really nice anchor for a really solid anchor but may be a little overkill. I didn't have the money at the time so ended up with a 13lb plow for $60 shipped that I have to say held great in sandy conditions and I put some serious stress on it kedging off the shoals in Pamlico sound.
 

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I think the above advice is spot on I also have a c-22 about the same anchors a 8lb Danforth and a 14lbs I am able to back down on them and they hold for lunch and over night In fresh water calm coves with little or no wind. I will gasp.. tie to a tree also. My use for the Catalina -22 is overnight like that. I am not a pro so do your own math.
You will have to ask where ? and what weather conditions you will take yours in My guess in fresh water with out a tide you might be out for lunch and a swim Or even over night?
Lots of threads on how to anchor check them out
Kind regards Lou
 

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I have a Catalina 22 and messed around with a Danforth-style anchor for two years when I first got my boat. I then got a modern "next gen" plow/rollbar anchor and the difference [for me, for where I sail] is ridiculous. The modern anchor sets like I ran into something. It resets on its own in changing wind or tide. It's never failed to set on the first try. It may have contributed to saving my marriage because anchoring is so less annoying. I sleep a lot better at anchor now.

You will get a multitude of opinions on this, most of them conflicting. This is a controversial topic. But for my boat, where I sail, and how I use my anchor, it would be:

  • RocMantus Supreme-style NextGen: Only anchor I'd realistically consider
  • Danforth: I use my old Danforth as my second/emergency anchor
  • Weird Navy-ish anchor: nautical yard ornament
 

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All,

Just to jump in on above comments. What if you are anchoring in mud alot with a 21 ft trailer sailor? My danford holds part of the time. Are the mud type fishing anchor anything to try?

thanks

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I have anchored in many conditions. The best overnight anchoring advice I can offer is to use a GPS anchor watch. There are no guarantees when it come to anchoring. In unprotected waters increased waves and wind increases the load. Most anchor selection charts will not only be in lbs of boat weight or known as displacement weight and wind and wave. I have been to many events (air shows, Jazz fests, etc) and the most common error I see people make is to not have enough rode to depth ratio...minimum is 3 times the rode to depth, and a good hold at 5 times. And also the more chain the better. More chain holds that anchor tongue down. When the tongue is raised the anchors are made to release, this is the reason for the chain and the rode angle.
 

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Oops, I didn't mean to start another anchor thread! I've read some of the others, there certainly are opinions.

I was really just curious if anyone knew anything about the "Navy Type" anchor. It looks useless to me, and the previous owner must have thought so too as it still had the price tag on it.

I'm thinking it stays off the boat and becomes, as gfh said, nautical yard art.
 

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Understood about "anchor wars" but you did open it up in a way. I agree with #8. What is your entire boat worth to you? I also agree with other posters who asked how you were going to use your anchor.

In either case, you should have at least the length of your boat in chain on the anchor.

Good luck, enjoy your boat, we had one, loved it.
 

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Understood about "anchor wars" but you did open it up in a way.
D'oh!


I agree with #8.
Yeah, makes sense, especially the marriage saving bit. A Rocna 10 might be in my future before our first night at anchor.


In either case, you should have at least the length of your boat in chain on the anchor.
Yeah, 4' seems weird, doesn't it? Like, not enough to add any real weight to keep the rode horizontal, but just enough to require a couple extra fittings. I suppose I'll have to get some more chain before anchoring too.


Good luck, enjoy your boat, we had one, loved it.
Yeah, I think it's going to be a lot of fun! At some point I aspire to have a larger boat, but I think this'll be a good size to learn a lot on. How long is it till May 2014? :)
 

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Catalina 22 well let you have a lot of fun, something to be said for having your boat go 60pmh to new destinations. Don't you have like a thousand lakes up there?

And I personally think your danforth will be fine but you need another anchor in any case. You want cheap go plow, better go mantus. My .02c
 

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I know Danforth type anchors don't get a lot of love around here, but I spent many years cruising Long Island Sound and southern New England waters with one as my main anchor. They are terrific in silt and mud bottoms, and have more holding power per pound of anchor weight than just about anything else. Disadvantage is that they don't set reliably in a major change of wind direction. In the rare times when I've had trouble with a Danforth, it was when the anchor got fouled by the anchor rode. A 13 lb is actually oversized for the 22 footer, though the as noted, you need more chain. And you definitely need a second anchor. I would keep the Danforth and add a second, preferably something different to give you options in different situtations.
 

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Catalina 22 well let you have a lot of fun, something to be said for having your boat go 60pmh to new destinations. Don't you have like a thousand lakes up there?
According to Wikipedia we have 11,842
 

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Both of those anchors will drag like crazy if it starts blowing, and you'll lose the boat.

I got a 22 pound Delta for my Catalina 22. I didn't wish I had bought a smaller anchor when the winds were blowing 35 knots anchored overnight near a rocky shore.

With a roller on the stern, it is easy to break free and haul with the sheet winch.
 

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I had a thought. I think the guy two owners ago raced the boat. Don't some race rules require you have an anchor? Maybe he put in that small, useless one just to satisfy race rules.
 

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I used that small navy anchor many decades ago when I went fishing on a large lake in south central Va with my 16 foot aluminum fishing boat. Just attached it to a 50 ft floating line and it served my purposes well, and if memory serves me right I even spent a night anchored on it in a small well protected cove. I might again use one on my inflatable dingy.
 
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