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I have this cam cleat that is for the jib sheet and I want to do something else with it. As you can see, it is in a really perfect spot for the winch, but that is also the cockpit of the boat and it hits you right in the back all the time. Anyone have any suggestions?

I can't afford a self tailing winch, but have considered trying a wincher. They are cheap enough to give a try, but thought I would ask here first to see if anyone have something else that I am over looking.
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@Minnewaska I think it is the original spot, I don't see any other place that looks like it had something else installed. Crazy if it is the stock location, very bad place. I thought about moving it up, but was not sure if the angle would be good or not.

I am definitely going to use a regular cleat if no one has anything else that might be better.

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@olson34 I think I am on that list, I will have to pay attention when the sales start to happen this winter. I don't need much for the jib sheet, they are just so much more expensive then the non-self tailing winch! But like you both said, it would be a much better solution. I think I will wait until spring before I install a regular cleat, just in case I catch a sale over the winter. Thanks for the advice!
 

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@Minnewaska I think I will wait for the sales this winter and see if I have the money to get a self tailing winch. If not, then I will go with a regular cleat. The only issue I see would be releasing the jib sheet quickly if needed, but I don't have enough experience to know if that is a real problem or not. When I have been sailing, if we need to spill air, we would release the main sheet and do it that way.
 

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@capecodda That is an interesting cleat, do you know what it is called? Trying to find on west marine. That, along with the grip textured gelcoat behind that winch and some turns on the winch, might provide plenty of grip for my needs and it would be quick release!

Did you install it with the angled end facing the winch so that you got at least a half of a wrap on the other end of the cleat and then pull the line tight into the angled part?
 

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I think that last picture is what I was thinking about, that way it would have at least half a wrap around the cleat before it jammed into place. Saw some for sale like the link you posted, but don't look near as nice as your original picture. Gives me a description to start with.
 

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I found this online, similar to what was posted before, but a little different. Not as good as what Capecodda posted, but might be worth a try.

Jam Cleat

I agree @SchockT it is a terrible design and definitely is going to cause an injury.
 

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I am thinking a little ways behind the winch on the same level, I need to take better look at the boat and see how much room I have before I start to run into the pulpit and things like that. Plus this is right where you would step into the boat, so several things to consider. Definitely want it out of the cockpit! It is a small boat, not a lot of room in there as it is and dodging this is a pain!
 

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Thanks for all the replies, seems like there are a lot of opinions and several different ways to fix this. I will have to see what I can find, finding the jam cleat like I wanted has not proven easy. I will figure out something over the winter as I feel this current setup is dangerous to have in the cockpit with me and any one on the boat with me. it is just a matter of time before someone gets cut on that thing.
 
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