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I have been contemplating the purchase of a children's safety harness's for my kids (3&5). Why shouldn't I have them for the kids? I don't ever recall hearing of discussion good or bad about kids wearing them, so before I make the purchase I wanted to get some real life experience feedback from you...


Here one from Defender


http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|135|88189&id=142669
 

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Our daughter began sailing with us when she was 6 weeks old in a car-seat lashed down in the cockpit. At the point at which she was able to walk, we put her in a lifevest with a harness that allowed her to reach, but not exceed the edges of the combings in the cockpit. Since she started out with this arrangement from the get go, she never had a problem with it, just as putting on a seat-belt in the car became second nature. Today, she and my wife both wear inflatable PFD's aboard ship as they manage the yacht, and harnesses whenever we're off-shore, (as do I) without giving the matter a second thought.

Our first rule aboard the boat has always been "Safety First". Our second rule is "Always hold on to the boat". Our third rule is "Never argue with Daddy". S'worked for 20+ years for me--it'll work for you. (Rule 1 and 2 anyway.)

FWIW...
 

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I always have one attached to my cat. I never want to have the experience of suddenly wondering, WHERE IS HE!?!?!

So, yeah, I can see why it could make a lot of sense to use a tether on small kids. Not necessarily all the time. And not in place of a life jacket. If junior goes over, it's probably best if he floats, tether or not.

The only downside I can see is getting the line tangled up on everything. Could be both a hassle and a danger. And I suppose if kids can strangle themselves on the cords attached to window blinds, no doubt they could do the same with a line tied to a harness.

Hey I'm a lot of help, huh? Bottom line answer is: I'd do it some of the time, depending on conditions and distance from land. In the end, there's always risk.
 

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IMHO, you'd be better off getting the ones that attach to the tether on the back. The reason for this is simple. If they fall overboard and are being dragged face forward, they will likely drown before you can stop the boat. If the harness and tether attach on the back, they will be dragged backwards through the water and there is far less chance of them drowning.

Be aware that a tether and harness does not replace a PFD...
 

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Stop the boat? You don't think Chef could haul a 3 or a 5 year old out of the water if one fell overboard? Especially in the adrenaline-driven heat of the moment? I'll bet he can.

The harness shown would fit under a PFD well I think.
 

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You're assuming that Chef would be available to do so. That may not be the case.

Stop the boat? You don't think Chef could haul a 3 or a 5 year old out of the water if one fell overboard? Especially in the adrenaline-driven heat of the moment? I'll bet he can.

The harness shown would fit under a PFD well I think.
 

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Our daughter began sailing with us when she was 6 weeks old in a car-seat lashed down in the cockpit. At the point at which she was able to walk, we put her in a lifevest with a harness that allowed her to reach, but not exceed the edges of the combings in the cockpit. Since she started out with this arrangement from the get go, she never had a problem with it, just as putting on a seat-belt in the car became second nature. Today, she and my wife both wear inflatable PFD's aboard ship as they manage the yacht, and harnesses whenever we're off-shore, (as do I) without giving the matter a second thought.

Our first rule aboard the boat has always been "Safety First". Our second rule is "Always hold on to the boat". Our third rule is "Never argue with Daddy". S'worked for 20+ years for me--it'll work for you. (Rule 1 and 2 anyway.)

FWIW...
That's just how we've done it with all of ours.
 

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What kind of lifevest? A child's Type II or do they make an auto-inflate that small?
 

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A short tether so they cannot fall over the side, but a vest that keeps the head out of the water.imho

Our experience - if the kid has to wear it, you have to wear it.
 

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ScottyT............you arent right,,,lol
 

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there is other options


I forsee a visit from Child Protective Services in your future old son... And the possibility that your wife may deal harshly with you in your sleep!
 

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there is other options

This is what I have been doing (thanks for the tip last year Scottyt) but I go through a LOT of duct tape...I mean it gets really costly, even if I buy the 5 roll pack at Costco :D
 

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Yes, used exactly that one with my girl, from ~ 3-10 years.

I have been contemplating the purchase of a children's safety harness's for my kids (3&5). Why shouldn't I have them for the kids? I don't ever recall hearing of discussion good or bad about kids wearing them, so before I make the purchase I wanted to get some real life experience feedback from you...


Here one from Defender


http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|135|88189&id=142669
We had a clear deck, so tangles were not a problem. Clear, the child is still attended.
 

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sorry for the high jack shawn.

as for the harness does anybody make a pfd for kids with a built in harness, or seen a strong lifting handle a tether could be attached to? doing a harness and a separate pfd seems like it could get annoying to all involved
 

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I've also been hoping for Mustang or someone to manufacturer a inflatable PFD, with and without harness? The Mustang rep at the boat show last fall said its in the works...anyone heard any updates?
 

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Might want to look at the Mustang series of PFDs. IIRC, CD likes them quite a bit...
sorry for the high jack shawn.

as for the harness does anybody make a pfd for kids with a built in harness, or seen a strong lifting handle a tether could be attached to? doing a harness and a separate pfd seems like it could get annoying to all involved
 

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sorry for the high jack shawn.

as for the harness does anybody make a pfd for kids with a built in harness, or seen a strong lifting handle a tether could be attached to? doing a harness and a separate pfd seems like it could get annoying to all involved
Crewsaver "Seababy". That's what we use. I wouldn't have a life jacket on boardwithout an integral harness. In this case, the harness attaches to the back, so you can haul the tot back on board by main force if necessary.


Crewsaver 150N Seababy - 0-20kg buoyancy lifejacket - Only £79.95 - Force 4 Chandlery
 

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