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As many of you might know I purchased Hull number 006 a couple weeks back, and have slowly be upgrading and refitting the boat to my liking. I have nothing but high praise for the prior owners of this boat, it was obviously very lovingly cared for.

I made 2 mistakes in picking up the boat (that I've noticed so far)... One was I forgot the outboard (you'd be surprised how much stuff I hauled back, my back seat was full, the bed of my truck was full of stuff that would NOT blow away, and there was a generous amount of stuff on the boat as well). So you can imagine why the outboard was left behind. Also the owner kept the plywood floor inside as he had just had it refinished, and it also got left behind.

Anyway here is the boat as I dragged her home:


I was lax in my strapping down the mast on the forward end, and I didn't cross lash the mast I just looped over it... the good news is it wasn't a problem until I was almost home, but the bad news is, I could have (but didn't) easily buggered the mast, it slid OFF the pulpit and was laying on the lifeline, off to one side on the trailer. That was to close and I'll have to pay more attention going forward.

Here she is backing into her winter home (note I fixed the lashing of the mast by then):


Its hard to tell, but someone recently (last 4 or 5 years) painted the decks, and looks like kiwi-griped the nonskid. The color LOOKS off white, but it is apparently brightsides white (as the owner left a color card in the paperwork).

As you can see there were some minor things, like the hatch slide:

but the boat came with a bunch of sails, 4 more on the floor outside of this picture of all the ones on the shelf


We trailer launch our boats in our local puddle... so this trailer isn't gonna work:


Bottom was already VC17m (freshwater boat), but it appears to need a new bottom coat:
 

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First fix was to eliminate the most glaring thing I forgot... The good news is, the 3.5hp outboard he had was of the same make/model of the Nissan 2.2 I had on my Capri 25 that caught fire. I hated that 2 stroke, only 2 stroke I never liked.

This is my big expense for the boat this year, a 4 stroke 3.5 hp outboard... I'm actually quite looking forward to using it... I'll be using 100% ethanol free fuel, cause I don't need a carb repair in my future.

Before you say it, I know, the Merc in this size is a rebranded Tohatsu... I DO know that... but I got the Merc about $50 more than the Tohatsu, so I paid to have the name... OK! That's a long shaft... F-N only model... integral tank, no external hookup. I wanted simple and hopefully reliable.

 

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I started right away in making keel guides for the trailer. I KNEW I had to make the guides before the boat was off the trailer. I can paint them and if need be carpet them when the boat is off... but for now, I had to make sure I configured it all up before the boat came off.

Couple things I don't like... the slot for the keel is to small, ideally I want to grind off the "channel" and replace it with a 2x12 pressure tread (or 2 2x6s is fine)... Just want a nice wide space to lay the keel on.

Also the boat has no space for, nor does one exist, a winch pad, or bow stop. The trailer is a "lift off" model Triad, and I need to make it so I can "float off." Its not gonna be perfect, but I need it to work JUST the same.

Here is my work:

I had no way to create the angles easily, for a chute for the keel, so this is what i did... Door hinges.
 

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Next thing to go was the wood motor mount...

Using the wood mount as a template, and having ordered a new starboard mount from Catalinadirect (they have them for the Cat 22 and Capri 22)...
Sold as a kit with the backplate (which best I can tell does not work with anyone's mount)... My mount already has a backplate, so its not a big deal, but for some reason I bought the damned plate again! Oh well.

Purdy no?
 

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Yes the mast is a mess in this picture, but the key point you should see is I created a mast rest on the starboard stern pulpit... This is important, because if the mast sits in the middle like most trailerables, it is directly in the way of getting aboard, also there is nothing easily (or lightly) built that can support the weight. I thought this was a good compromise... the mast does not exceed the width reach of the beam either this way (surpirsingly)... Plan is to ratchet the mast to the stern cleat. Now I can place a 6' step ladder directly behind the open transom and it is JUST high enough (6' step ladder sides below the waterline, and yes its a 24 foot boat!

I also made a quick way to cap off the hole for the mast (will paint it later, as I will the mast supports)

Also did a bow pulpit support this is heavy, but it needs to be.

 

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Unexciting stuff, quick sand of the old bottom (used 220 on my RO Dewalt):

First coat Red VC17m going on:

Boy that spruces up the bottom quick no?

Stepping back (note there is a keel stop on the keel guides... this is to prevent loading the boat to far forward, hope it works):
 

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I stripped the hull bare of all her markings today... all indications of the old owner, name and registration are now gone, and I rubbed down the hull with paint thinner to get some of the black stains off the hull... the hull is painted brightsides white. Here is the result of the work.


One thing I should mention, I noted the hull had the outline of "Mini Moo" on it, indicating the prior name. I wasn't terribly fond of "Geronimo" with references apparently to the movie "Wind" which I have not seen (its on my list OK?)...

But looking up the old name, I found the prior owner was John Rogers out of Genesee Yacht Club. Looks like John had some success with the boat too, and I got a wild idea in my head. You see, we breed Brittanys, beautiful brown and white spotted dogs, and my daughters Grand Champion Champion is "Woodland's Water Fairy," aka "Misty Moo," or as we like to call her "Moo." IN turn my daughter has been over the top with the whole cow theme since. Now 14 and quickly beginning to think I "stupid," I liked the idea of indulging her just one more time and brought the name back to "MINI MOO"

Of course this opens a WHOLE WORLD of possibilities with the boat! But first to fix some issues...

Gotta cover this, its looks bad


Replace the name as best I can with one the same size shape and font as John's original name on the boat (added some color for flare):


Legal stuff, boat needs to be registered and all (note I nicely covered the old yellow spot with this):


Hailing port!


What? NO way I didn't? Yep, I went there! Race Committee is gonna notice THAT crossing the line early.




Oh yep, this was fun... greatest part yet? If I scratch the hull, put another black sticker on!
 

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Oh and those companionway hatch slides! Here they are off, by the way, they were screwed in from inside the cabin with machine screws, into the teak rails above deck. 5 screws per slide.

Here was what prompted me to do somethinb about them.


I bought 2 pieces of 1x2x39 inch black starboard to replace the 1.5 inch tall pieces of teak used for same... I can only get 1 inch tall stuff easily, so is what I went with.

I thought about using my table saw to cut a groove and almost did... I would have had to move the table guide 3 times, for 1/8 inch at a time to get wide enough of a groove for the hatch... then I thought more on the subject... I DO own a router, its just not a TABLE router. Well that isn't true either, they DO sell a table for it, I just don't have it... Solution? Make your own table! Turn the router over, screw it to a piece of plywood with a hole in the center... VIOLA table router!



The above shot is of the home made table router, but also with a test piece of 1" wide plank grooved with a 1/4 inch router bit. Turns out 1/4 inch isn't wide enough, as the tabs on the hatch aren't perfectly straight! go figure. If you look at this, you'll see how wide the original was, that's actually overkill wide too...
Top is the original, middle is 1/4 inch and bottom is a test with 3/8 inch... I tested the hatch with the 3/8 and it was more betterer.


Now to make a great solution (or mistake depending on your day):


I dunno I think it worked nicely no?





This isn't done by any stretch... these are just set in place... for testing. My aim is to drill 5 holes all the way through these starboard pieces, countersink the holes for proper stainless machine bolts. This will require NEW holes for the cabintop.. Because I'm going to bolt these on, not screw them. That means the holes in the cabintop will be overdrilled larger, plugged up with laminating resin, and dried, then REDRILLED... that also means I'll be filling in the old holes with laminating resin as well. Sucks but this is the price we pay to prevent core damage. I'll post pictures of all that, it'll look much more boring than these pictures of course because the repairs will be hidden but make no mistake, that will all be MORE work than this was.

Note too, that I have new black starboard pieces to replace the companionway hatch keepers too... so the hatch sliders, and keepers will all match. That won't take as long to install. I may also do that the same way, bolts, instead of screws (it may already be bolts though I haven't looked yet).

Anyway, that is where I am so far.
 

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I should note above that the slides are not routed all the way through, and that starboard is rounded/beveled on the top already (came shipped to me that way, as that is how I ordered it)... anyway, that means there is a specific port and starboard hatch slide.
 

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Congratulations! Somehow I missed that you bought a Wavelength. That should be a great boat for you. I have always liked those boats.

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Our venue is frequently light air, and the WL seemed like a better choice than the S2... not sure. 2500lbs 1100lbs of it in keel? Might be an interesting boat to sail. Can't wait to give it a go.
 

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Got lots of work to do this weekend will continue to post. Looking forward to end of April when I can splash the boat, and get some sailing shots.
 

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Mostly day sailing, but we have a few overnights a year on the lake. Best I can tell the quarter berths are decent comfy (about 7 foot long)... they seem likely to be most useful actually under way. The V berth doesn't look all that usable, but I dunno yet.

There is a sink but its setup to pull from a 5 gallon flexible, and seems to drain back to a bucket, the prior owner appears to have adapted it to drain into the cooler.. that works I suppose. I see no reason to use the sink though.

My biggest grief is the porta pottie, which would be unusable under the v berth. I may actually permanently attach the head brackets to the middle of the floor (yep you heard me)... and I'll move the pottie from middle of the floor to under the V, depending on what I'm doing. I solo sail lots, so having it easy to reach (and use) with the tiller pilot driving works for me.
 

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Lots of nice work going on there.

WAVELENGTH 24 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
^^^ gives the draft of the Wavelength 24' as 4.5' although I would have guessed it was deeper from your pictures.
I bet you are going to need a pretty deep ramp to float your W24 off that trailer. Any thoughts on using a tongue extension or extension straps for launching/retrieving?
 

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Caleb, I had a Capri 25, which is 4' draft... this is definitely deeper 6 inches more looks like a foot to me. I strap launched the Capri, but my concern is this is a single axle trailer and it may put undue stress on the fold down dolly. I'm considering several options right now.

One is a $300 a square tube extension, but it only buys me 4 feet.

Obviously the other one is strap launch with both sets of dollies (front and back) down... our ramp is rough enough that that might very well break the dollies.

Another option I'm considering is creating a tongue extension... 2x2" tube with a ball mounted on it, and a U bolt to hold it in place. I think the only length I'd get out of that is another 4 feet (8 overall)... possibly 5.

Our ramp is STUPID deep though. The first year I had my Capri 25, I managed to get the truck in the water up to the bumper, and my Capri floated off! YEP, THAT deep!

Presently I think I'm aiming for strap launch its the cheapest option...

If you haven't thought of it, single axle means if there isn't substantial tongue weight, then unhitching could cause the trailer to rock all the way back (thankfully I have a dolly back there to prevent it from going far).

So I may get a spare tire mount with a spare wheel hub, and mount it to use AS a dolly. One of these...
Mount it horizontally, and the wheel instantly reaches the ground as a dolly :)

Might be the best option.
 

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Made a little progress today...
Hatch slides drilled and countersunk...


Hatch keepers drilled and countersunk.


It was a couple hours work to get this done, but I installed a scuba swim ladder (removable) on the boat... I used the Catalina direct backing plate (which doesn't fit any motor mount I've seen), I ground off the lips of the stainless, and used it as a 12x9" stainless backing plate for the ladder mount... I'm concerned about this ladder mount... the fiberglass is NOT cored, its flat glass. The plate will help, but I'm waiting to see the whole ladder pull completely out. I DID test the ladder, it works and holds my fat keester. The fact that the transom is angled as such it doesn't help things much. Also that last step might only be under water 12 inches or so. Oh well, it keeps it simple...

Installed and retracted.

extended.


What you don't see is me drilling the companionway hatch holes, overdrilling them taping them off underneath, and filling them with resin. I also filled the old holes for the hatch keepers... I'm hoping tomorrow I can redrill the holes and install both the hatch slides AND the hatch keepers...

All my stuff has arrived, radio, speakers, buss bars, and wire. I also have a tiller pilot to install, and a VHF speaker extender. We'll see how much of this stuff I can get done.
 

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You are doing some good work. I just don't understand a swim latter that only has one step under water. You really need at least three steps under water to make it useable. mine has the top step just under the water, the first step 2.5 feet below the water and it is still hard to get out of the water. I wish mine had a fourth step a foot lower
 

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My last ladder had 2. The one before that had just 1... Its a PITA, but it beats NO ladder. Yep now that the ladder is installed, I am thinking of upgrading to 4 rungs, but I'll defer until summer to see how bad it really is (because 2 might not be enough either). My bigger concern is its gonna rip a hole right through the transom (despite the huge backing plate).
 
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