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Late last year I bought a boat and part of the deal was that it would stay there until April or may. The time is now approaching and I am trying to think of things to check and make sure before doing this boat delivery. I never delivered a boat I don't know inside out. When I bought this one, it was so cold there was no chance to sail it. But I did check the engine and normal survey as you would when buying a boat.

I will not be alone and my crew will actually have more nautical miles in their belts. However, none of us been out in the ocean on this boat. Trip is expected to take 2 days. Big part of it is along the Atlantic coast.

Anyway, I guess the question boils down to this. If you had to deliver a boat you are not familiar with what do you check and bring besides the normal?

Thank you!

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If "the normal" means you are confident in rigging, sails, firefighting and lifesaving equipment, charts, provisions, engine, fuel, water, lights, radios, compass (accurate?), charts, ground tackle, steering and through-hull fittings, then...

Get her our for a couple of day sails before you make the two-day trip, and operate *everything*. You don't want to find out something "abnormal" for the first time when you are offshore.
 

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I bought my boat in San Francisco and brought it about 450nm home to San Diego, during haul out for survey the bottom was pressure washed. The batteries were dry and old so I had them replaced at sellers expense as part of settlement, terminals and cables checked and some replaced.
I had a recommended mechanic do a "pre-delivery" service, filters, oil change, belts checked and tightened, new raw water impellor etc.
I spent 4 days on the boat before leaving and checked all openings below waterline, seacocks for operation, clamps and hoses for condition and tighteness including shaft log.
Checked bilge pump and switches.
Checked operation of all domestic systems, plumbing (replaced leaking pressure relief valve), propane appliances, lights etc.
Flushed/lubed most hardware blocks etc to make sure the moving parts moved and everything operational.
Checked steering quadrant and cables, tried out the emergency tiller, reefed the main, pulled the anchor rode out on dock and checked it. Check windlass operation.
Took it out on a day sail shakedown, everything seemed good so I left when crew arrived. Probably forgot some stuff.
Oh, I also got a Gold Membership in Seatow for the trip, it's cheap insurance.
 

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Well you want to make sure everything is top shape. Did you have a survey done before purchase? If so then they likely gave you a list of things, normally listed as safety, urgent, and optional type levels of repair. If you did not have it professionally surveyed now would be a good time to do it. Most likely you will need one for insurance anyway. This will give you your repair list, but even great surveyors will miss things. So be sure to go over everything with a fine tooth comb. Keep in mind the engine will be critical, as deliveries are to get somewhere on a schedule, not a cruse. So you will likely have the engine on for both days straight.

Here is my basic list:

Engine, running perfect plus:
new fuel filters, and several (say 6 to 10) backups. (if fuel has been sitting in the tank it will likely get stirred up and any sludge will get picked up and clog filters.
compression tested (will give a basic idea of strength of the motor)
oil and filter change (might send old out for oil analysis to see if there are any major issues) Have lots of extra oil just in case it burns a lot, or leaks.
change transmission fluid

Rigging:
Check rigging for any signs of cracks in the swage fittings, replace any showing any defects. (be sure to check both lower and upper swages)
Check wire for any meat hooks replace any showing any defects. (be extra diligant of headstay wire if it has roller furling, and check again after test sails to make sure you don't have any wrapping of the furler)
Replace life lines if they are coated with plastic, unless you have receipts for them having been replaced in the past 3 or 4 years. Even if they look good.
Replace any running rigging that looks worn or stiff.

Electronics/navigation:
Make sure they all work and that you have charts (both electronic and paper) for your planed and surrounding areas.
Make sure the compass is accurately swung (hire a professional to adjust it if you don't know how)
Have at least two backups, so perhaps a chart plotter, a handheld gps and a tablet/laptop with charting software loaded and used.

Be sure to top up water tanks (soak with bleach and rinse well) and have a couple gallon jugs for each person each day for drinking. Don't expect the water tanks to be good enough for drinking till they have been cleaned and flushed several times.
Send sails out to be cleaned and any repairs done.
Have lots of snacks and food, full crew = happy crew.

Go out and sail several days well before departure (as in now) and make yourself very familiar with the rigging and controls of the boat. Know how to use all equipment on board including head and galley. nothing like a backed up head, or not being able to get the stove to light when you have sleepy crew that wants coffee.

Make sure you have updated safety equipment, and set up jack-lines and have harnesses available for all crew and good comfortable life jackets. Have extra fire extinguishers, and flairs, make sure you know where they are and alert all crew to there whereabouts. Have the local Coast Guard do a safety check, they will give you a sticker to put on your mast, and this often prevents boardings by them once you are out in the water.

If you can't do all of the above it may be better to arrange for the boat to be trucked or hire a professional.

Taking a new to you and unfamiliar boat into the open ocean is not something to be done lightly.


The recommendation of Sea Tow or Tow Boat US is a good one. Check to see who has the best coverage in the area you will be traveling.

What kind of boat is it?
 

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Great advice so far.

Know how to bleed the fuel system
Bring more tools than you think you will need
Be mentally prepared to take more time than what you planned for

I can say from experience, relax, be patient and have fun, it can get stressful and that's not what it's about.
 

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"If you had to deliver a boat you are not familiar with what do you check and bring besides the normal? "

Stem to stern, eyes and hands on, in, and under every piece of the boat. Test everything that can be moved to see if it does move (or should move). Assume nothing.

Do the same thing on deck, and below deck.

Check the rudder for any hairline cracks or moisture content or other signs of impending failure. Check the keel. Check the batteries not only hold a charge, but they still have good capacity.

Make sure it is stocked with all safety equipment, in date and better.

Might mean spending a weekend at the boat.

And now, do all this at least two weeks, preferably four to six, before you plan to move the boat. Because if you need something simple like a water pump impeller? It may take a week to come in stock, then you've got to install it.

If you need rigging parts...longer.

Got paper charts? Manuals for all the electronics?

Water tanks have been cleaned out, or there's enough bottled water aboard?

Fuel tanks cleaned out, fuel fresh or polished? Spares for the filters, crush washers, other fuel supply parts confirmed as the correct part number, not just "Oh, that's a spare...." which sometimes doesn't fit.

That's the way it goes with everything. Check everything, and leave yourself enough time to hear "Ayeah, that's out of stock, could take a couple of weeks" as well as expecting that what comes in to stock and is overnighted to you? May be the wrong parts anyway.

The really nice thing about being a pessimist, is that it is always a pleasant surprise to find you've been wrong and everything is in fact peachy-keen.
 

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Well you want to make sure everything is top shape. Did you have a survey done before purchase? If so then they likely gave you a list of things, normally listed as safety, urgent, and optional type levels of repair. If you did not have it professionally surveyed now would be a good time to do it. Most likely you will need one for insurance anyway. This will give you your repair list, but even great surveyors will miss things. So be sure to go over everything with a fine tooth comb. Keep in mind the engine will be critical, as deliveries are to get somewhere on a schedule, not a cruse. So you will likely have the engine on for both days straight.

Here is my basic list....................
Wow!!! There is a comprehensive list!! To be honest I dont think I have the time nor resources to do it all but I will print it out and do the best I can. Trucking the boat is not in the budget. I am doing all the engine and rigging maintenance though.

The boat is Canadian Sailcraft 33 (CS33)
 

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Get towing insurance before you leave. No matter how carefully you check all the systems, you can't anticipate when a gasket will give out or an engine part will fail, especially with an unfamiliar boat. Also, if it has been out of service for awhile, don't run the engine too hard for the first few days. Give the gaskets time to expand and re-seat before you push it.
 

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Great advice so far.

Know how to bleed the fuel system
Bring more tools than you think you will need
Be mentally prepared to take more time than what you planned for

I can say from experience, relax, be patient and have fun, it can get stressful and that's not what it's about.
How DO you bleed the fuel system? Tank now is 3/8 full. I never owned a boat with a diesel before.
 

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Short answer: A fuel injected diesel will not run (for very long) with air in the fuel lines, air introduced by a filter change or fuel delivery problem say. So you must "bleed" the air from the lines, usually beginning at the Racor (or such) filter which may have a little hand pump and "bleed" screw on the housing. Then you move up the fuel line towards the engine usually using a little lever on the engine fuel pump to manually pump fuel while you "crack" various bleeding points to expel air until just fuel comes out. The exception is a boat with an electric "lift" or volume pump at the tank which may be "self bleeding", I've never had one of those.
You should check your current filter carefully for the presence of the dreaded "Black Crud From Top or Bottom" of very old fuel. The anxiety expressed by others here in regards to fuel and filters is the result of some very bad experiences when old fuel in a tank has been "well shaken and stirred" for the first time.
 

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All great advice especially checking for a clean fuel tank .
A little story , my cousin who lives mid west coast and at the time no sailing experience was asked to go on a delivery from San Francisco to Ventura Ca. Pretty much a reach and down wind . He asked me what could go wrong ? So I pretty much said everything that has just been said plus don't be anywhere near Point Conception in the afternoon . Then he told me that it would be just him and a pro Captain . So I said " Joe you have a pro he will know what to do , you don't need to ask me . Plus the delivery was set up by the Westsail guru . Well it didn't go so well , first the Captain was not a Capt . and he only had one leg . They didn't check anything on the boat ( a Westsail 32 ) they just went for it , they reached the point at lunch time and in my cousin's words " all of a sudden it was Hell's Bells . Instantly they had 70 MPH wind and 30 ft. seas. The old time sails shredded , so they fired up the engine it quit because of tank contamination , they called the CG , CG got there and lowered the basket , Capt. and cousin swam to it, got in and were rescued . The boat floated past the point and was picked up by a tow co. and delivered to Ventura .
 

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Great advice. I'll add one thing: Check the weather. Lots of ways to do that, including a weather router (a person who checks it for you). Above all, don't be tied to your schedule. If the weather is not cooperating, wait for the right window. Good luck and have fun.
 

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Batteries.

When I bought my current boat, they had been charged, but would not hold more than a few hours... which I didn't know. After a few hours out, everything died and the engines would not start. Had to sail 2 days like that, including anchoring and into the slip. No problems, since I'd sailed engineless boats, but something to check. They were old and simply done in.
 

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In addition to all those extra RACOR fuel filters.... make sure you have a strap wrench to take them off! (yes I forgot a strap wrench)

On the delivery of my boat that had been on the hard for a year and a half. Launched on a Wed, left on Thur (after testing everything!) and did 400 miles in less than 3 days. Still was not fun floating around in the DE Bay w/ no wind and a clogged fuel filter for a while.

Definitely get the unlimited TOW option!

And you'll love your CS; they built a nice boat.

 

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Do you have the option of running inside, rather than the ocean? On an unfamiliar boat, I'd have to think about being conservative..... And I see you're from NJ; as others have said, don't forget the SeaTow or Towboat US unlimited. Choose between them based on presence at your home port.

I can't add much except Rule Number 2 - keep the water on the outside. Have a damage control kit including plugs for each thru-hull. Work/maintain the seacocks. Have a diagram of their location for your crew. Test the bilge pump capacity. Have a back-up. Is the bilge clean, or is there material that will block the pumps?
 

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don't forget the SeaTow or Towboat US unlimited. Choose between them based on presence at your home port.
If you are compensated for a delivery you need the Towboat US commercial policy. I believe SeaTow has a similar policy.
 

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Hey,

You should consider hiring a delivery captain, at least for the first day. Back in 2006 I needed to move my new-to-me O'day 35 from Newport RI to Mt. Sinai, NY, in December. I had a few years of experience, and my Dad (very little experience) agreed to come with me. We both came to the conclusion that having an expert on board would be a good idea. Some research and few phone calls and we lined up a guy.

We didn't really NEED the captain, but I was really glad he was there. He was pretty cheap (around $500) and really helped during docking, leaving the dock, tying the boat up on the slip, etc.

The boat I bought had been in regular service and worked perfectly during the delivery - engine, transmission, electronics, autopilot, etc.

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In addition to all those extra RACOR fuel filters.... make sure you have a strap wrench to take them off! (yes I forgot a strap wrench)

On the delivery of my boat that had been on the hard for a year and a half. Launched on a Wed, left on Thur (after testing everything!) and did 400 miles in less than 3 days. Still was not fun floating around in the DE Bay w/ no wind and a clogged fuel filter for a while.
So...interesting about the racor fuel filters. PO had 2 micron installed and another spare. I called Bay Shore Marine in Annapolis to buy more for the trip. He said Yanmar recommends 30 micron and unless I am fueling in a third world country I dont need even a 10...
 

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Do you have the option of running inside, rather than the ocean? On an unfamiliar boat, I'd have to think about being conservative..... And I see you're from NJ; as others have said, don't forget the SeaTow or Towboat US unlimited. Choose between them based on presence at your home port.
Outside will be from Cape May to Sandy Hook. This distance makes up about 50-60% of the trip. I am not aware of anyway to go inside with a 45ft mast
 
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