I'm sure FedEx, UPS, DHL just to name a few have established routes and procedure to move goods around the world.

 

As said,

We are looking for clean solutions

FedEx, UPS, DHL,... do not propos any clean solution.

We are looking for company that transport goods with sailing boat, with no motors.

 

I don't know anything about the global shipping industry, but would guess that shipping by sail is not economically viable because it is so much slower that fossil fuel. Solar does not produce enough power to cross oceans with enough speed. Nuclear is well... frowned upon by most people concerned with the environment. On a much smaller scale, there are recreational sailboats that regularly transit certain routes, at certain time of the year. Not so helpful from a business standpoint.

 

I am not usually a negative person but I don't think you will ever find what you are looking for. The cost for paying a crew for weeks of passage will make the shipping so so expensive you or the consumer would not be able to afford it. Selling close to come or buying local is a better solution.

 

there are a bunch of companies trying to get this kind of shipping business going.

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I think this same question was asked by another first time poster a few months ago. I suspect the same guy under a different name.

 

The other poster was trying to provide shipping for miscellaneous goods to underserved Alaskan villages. Not the same thing as transatlantic with a predetermined cargo. Grain de Sail Our cargo sailboat - Grain de Sail is doing this now with a purpose-made 80' aluminum schooner that made an initial trip last year. The cost of crew does not seem to faze them much. The boat set sail for New York in November 2021 with a crew of four. Fall 2021 - Grain de Sail Grain de Sail has been using sail cargo for several years. Perhaps they could refer Liaris to the boat that they were shipping with previously.

 

Thank you all for your answers, it is viable in a business point of view, which is not viable is to use fossil ressources to power our shipping !

Sailing boat is the solution that has been used for ever. We could do it before and we still can, wind will never stop to blow.

The other poster was trying to provide shipping for miscellaneous goods to underserved Alaskan villages. Not the same thing as transatlantic with a predetermined cargo. Grain de Sail Our cargo sailboat - Grain de Sail is doing this now with a purpose-made 80' aluminum schooner that made an initial trip last year. The cost of crew does not seem to faze them much. The boat set sail for New York in November 2021 with a crew of four. Fall 2021 - Grain de Sail Grain de Sail has been using sail cargo for several years. Perhaps they could refer Liaris to the boat that they were shipping with previously.

We've contacted Grain de Sail, but we did not know that they used a different solution before. We gonna ask them, thanks. The best solution would have been towt but there is no more place available.


All of your contributions are very helpful !
Do not hesitate to share more idea or thoughts that you have. This project is really about to make things right for the planet. We won't stop global emissions with Liaris but we want to do our best in that direction.

 

Hi,

We are a young company in the sustainable mode industry. We are looking for clean solutions to deliver our goods through the atlantique ocean, South America to France.


We've contacted some companies like towt.eu but we did not get any positives answers.

Do you know where we can find a sailing boat or other clean solution to transport our goods ?


Thanks for any contribution you may have

Your competitors will transport much cheaper by motor merchant vessel. You will be out of business very quickly.

 

"Your competitors will transport much cheaper by motor merchant vessel. You will be out of business very quickly."


Tell that to Grain de Sail. They have a luxury product that consumers are willing to pay for. The company includes transport costs in their pricing and still makes a profit - and has been for years. They're EXPANDING. Renault and Beneteau have signed up with Neoline Home - NEOLINE Wind powered transatlantic shipping because they're looking long-term. Motor vessels are not the only fish in the sea.

 

If we looked only for the cost we would buy everything in china, fortunately, some people like qualitative products

(Not saying there's no good products in china, there is ! But not from wish, aha )

 

What are you transporting?

 

T-Shirts, we'll launch in few the website and the social pages to tell you more about it.

But, in short our goal is to have a final product that is high quality, cost ecologically less than the average coton t-shirt and to keep the price affordable.

In long term, we want to cut the cost per t-shirt, keeping our principals.

 

Sailing cargo is a dream that will never come to fruition, in this age of "I must have it now" mentality. Little companies or huge shipping companies will never be able to maintain a schedule under sail, period. The age of sail is long gone.
When I circumnavigated in the '70s, there were still a considerable number of sailing vessel hulls running cargo under engine power. I'm pretty sure those are long gone, as they were not efficient designs for power boats. I believe you'll probably have to build your own boats.

 

Capta has a point about purpose-built boats. T-shirts and clothing in general is not dense cargo. It calls for a large volume relative to its weight, so you would need a large boat, but not necessarily one that could handle heavy weights. That means the scantlings (size of the ribs/beams/stringers) could be lighter and therefore cheaper. Because of this It might also be possible to adapt an existing hull. This outfit seems to have a couple of possible candidates:2018 Van De Stadt Van De Stadt 67 Cruiser for sale - YachtWorld

 

Hi,

We are a young company in the sustainable mode industry. We are looking for clean solutions to deliver our goods through the atlantique ocean, South America to France.


We've contacted some companies like towt.eu but we did not get any positives answers.

Do you know where we can find a sailing boat or other clean solution to transport our goods ?


Thanks for any contribution you may have

There is a sailing Brigantine out of Holland that has been doing just that for at least 10 years. They have no motor . When I was in Barbados , they would come every year. Moving organic goods. The Ship is called Tres Hombres. I’m sure you can find her by googling.

 

Tres Hombres - Fairtransport

 

Hi,

We are a young company in the sustainable mode industry. We are looking for clean solutions to deliver our goods through the atlantique ocean, South America to France.


We've contacted some companies like towt.eu but we did not get any positives answers.

Do you know where we can find a sailing boat or other clean solution to transport our goods ?


Thanks for any contribution you may have

If you want to sell really expensive small goods (say diamonds...), there are enough blue water sailboat cruisers in Europe that will be happy to call their boat a commercial vessel, for a nice fee and do the job for you.

 

Hi,

We are a young company in the sustainable mode industry. We are looking for clean solutions to deliver our goods through the atlantique ocean, South America to France.


We've contacted some companies like towt.eu but we did not get any positives answers.

Do you know where we can find a sailing boat or other clean solution to transport our goods ?


Thanks for any contribution you may have

I don't know anything about the global shipping industry, but would guess that shipping by sail is not economically viable because it is so much slower that fossil fuel. Solar does not produce enough power to cross oceans with enough speed. Nuclear is well... frowned upon by most people concerned with the environment. On a much smaller scale, there are recreational sailboats that regularly transit certain routes, at certain time of the year. Not so helpful from a business standpoint.

Hey, don't judge their business acumen. Maybe, just maybe, their product is so valuable or illegal that they don't care how much it costs to ship. Or possibly, they care so much about the planet that they don't care about the inefficiencies.

 

Reading the thread reveals that they are looking to ship t-shirts. As the OP originally stated, it seems they care about the planet.

 

You'll never get funding for this - no VC or bank will give you money for this boondoggle. And you can't spell "Atlantic" which worries me. If you're spending your own money, then you'll see the losses after one trip and you'll either be bankrupt or you'll realize that you soon will be. The only way you can do this is if you crew your boats with young women and have them rebuild the boats while wearing bikinis. Fortunes are being made as we speak with this business model.

 

Dear Killick-
Please note that the OP is French. Tricolor on his profile, and wants to learn how to ship by sail to France. French spellcheck will automatically put Atlantique in for you every time so that Crédit Lyonnais will not reject your loan application for a misspelling. French law is promoting carbon-neutral production so their banks are going to support this. There may be some sort of carbon tax involved so that companies which can reduce their carbon footprint can sell their credits to firms that cannot. This would make reducing one's carbon footprint a very good investment and a wise business decision. Neoline's sail cargo vessel is out to bid now. Earlier this month Grain de Sail's boat was tied up in NYC unloading wine, (available at certain restaurants in the NYC region) and is now en route south to pick up coffee and cacao before returning to France. This is their third circuit of the Atlantic. People are making sail cargo work. Your crew idea sounds interesting. There was a woman crewing on Grain de Sail's initial trip. November-February is chilly for bikinis, however.

 

Oui ! Exactement !
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