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I would like to have white bottom paint. My boat is kept in fresh water (Kentucky Lake) and is used to cruise and club race. I currently use VC17, but am going to take the paint off this winter to sand very smooth. What experience can you all share with me? I've looked at the Petit Vivid and the products from EPaint. I'm not really fired up on either one. White VC is available in Europe, but not here, does anyone know why?
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Probably EPA regulations...:) Are you going to dry sail the boat or leave it in the water. Giulietta has used a teflon-based antifouling paint on his boat with fairly good success made by Jotun... Might be worth looking at.
 

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You could use VC Offshore, which is a white paint. If I were in your shoes I'd stick with VC17. Any other paint is going to be a ton of work to get an equally smooth bottom (spraying, sanding and burnishing). The boat I just bought has a beautiful VC17 bottom, but I have to remove it to switch to a paint that will work better in salt water.

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Why does this remind me of Dr. Strangelove???

 

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I cannot find VC offshore in white. You can get it in Europe but not in the US. I do see the VC epoxy, which is listed as a teflon finish paint, but not antifouling. Does anyone here have experience with the Jotun paints in the US, I have never heard of them before. I looked on the web site and they list a lot of commericial paints but I did not see any recreational paints. I like the look of a white bottom, and it is easy to see where it needs cleaning. BTW, Alex, you have a really good looking bottom! (Boat bottom!!!) :)
 

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Nice Sperry Gold Cups Gui unfortunately I had to retire mine today after 2 years of pretty much daily use. Whats with the socks though!?

J34 I agree that white paint looks great you should get it it would look good on Sparkie.


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My bad, I thought VC Offshore came in white. I must have been confusing it with the VC Epoxy, which as you said doesn't antifoul at all. I used Micron CSC in "Shark White" on my old boat. Good paint, stays clean, easy to apply, but it's very soft and not smooth. I've been thinking of trying Vivid on the new boat.

I cannot find VC offshore in white. You can get it in Europe but not in the US. I do see the VC epoxy, which is listed as a teflon finish paint, but not antifouling. Does anyone here have experience with the Jotun paints in the US, I have never heard of them before. I looked on the web site and they list a lot of commericial paints but I did not see any recreational paints. I like the look of a white bottom, and it is easy to see where it needs cleaning. BTW, Alex, you have a really good looking bottom! (Boat bottom!!!) :)
 

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We've used Micron CXC in shark white. It's an ablative paint and has worked well for us. The lighter color makes it easier to see growth and clean it off, if there is any. It's obvious that Giu has his bottom and keel painted this color for that reason. When he goes out "kelping" he needs to be able to see when to harvest his catch and bring it aboard. It seems that the Portuguese farmers value the kelp as fertilizer for their grapes. It allows them to label their Port "v.s.o.p.":"Valuable Sort Of Phertilizer" and brings them a higher price.
 

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Giu has spoiled us with these pictures. Now I want a white hull too.

Seriously, that's not ablative paint is it? It doesn't have the usual chalkiness and dullness.
 

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As I said above, its a teflon-based paint... doesn't have a biocide in it AFAIK. It is designed to be too slippery for marine life to grab a good hold of.
 

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Thanks Dog. Is there a downside to it? (hard to apply? expensive? both maybe?)

(((And will it let me hit 15 knots like Giu?)))
 

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No idea... AFAIK, it isn't available in the USA... so that'd be the first downside to it. :) IIRC, it is made by JOTUN.
 

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After reading a rudder thread here, I checked with Foss Foam and they insist that any boat out of the water, with dark bottom paint, cover the rudder. They suggest white bottom paint. I didn't think to ask them what white bottom paint.
 

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If the Foss Foam rudders are made of epoxy-resin, requiring the rudder being painted white makes sense. Epoxy has a fairly low thermal distortion temperature, and if painted a dark color and exposed to sunlight, can heat up to the point where they will start to deform.
After reading a rudder thread here, I checked with Foss Foam and they insist that any boat out of the water, with dark bottom paint, cover the rudder. They suggest white bottom paint. I didn't think to ask them what white bottom paint.
 

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I have an email into Jotun US. I'm wondering how much more the teflon paint is than regular bottom paint, and if it lasts longer and therefore still cost effective.

I'll post the results when I get them.
 

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I found white VC-17 for E39.99 on the internet. You just cant buy it here. Just looking, the good go-fast paint in the US does not come in white. I have found negative comments on the Vivid and the E-paint both. What I have not heard is how the white VC epoxy works in fresh water. I have heard it is not so easy to apply, but does make a good hard finish that will last. However it is not anitifouling paint, it is made for dry sailing. Maybe just have to stick with the VC-17 bronze. Oh well........ Thanks for all the feedback!!
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