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Hi,
I want to purchase this 1982 US sailing boat and I would like to have more information about he manufacturer. Here in Spain, it is not possible to find any info.
The boat may have 42.5" lenght and 12.2" beam
Somebody knows more things about it?
Alberto
 

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Do you have a HIN number. That would at least tell us what make and model the boat is... The HIN number should be marked on the starboard side of the transom.
 

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There is no HIN nº, this boat has been captured by the spanish custom in the year 2003, I only know the name "Shambhala" and the registry "657311 WICKFORD RI" in 1982.
It was under US flag.
It will be sold in a auction at the end of the month.
 

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Even the feds don't have builder but they do have the hull number v

Vessel Name: SHAMBHALA USCG Doc. No.: 657311
Vessel Service: RECREATIONAL IMO Number: *
Trade Indicator: Recreational Call Sign: *
Hull Material: FRP (FIBERGLASS) Hull Number: BVA432290882
Ship Builder: * Year Built: 1982

Length (ft.): 42.5
Hailing Port: WICKFORD RI Hull Depth (ft.): 5.5
Owner: Hull Breadth (ft.): 12.2
Gross Tonnage: 14
Net Tonnage: 12
Documentation Issuance Date: November 03, 2003 Documentation Expiration Date: November 30, 2004

Previous Vessel Names: RUNNING ON EMPTY
Previous Vessel Owner
 

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According to the USCG Documentation lookup site:

<table class="results" border="1" rules="all" width="100%"><caption>
</caption> <tbody><tr> <td align="right" width="24%">Vessel Name:</td> <td width="24%">SHAMBHALA</td> <td rowspan="11" class="gray" width="1%"> </td> <td align="right" width="24%">USCG Doc. No.:</td> <td width="24%">657311</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">Vessel Service:</td> <td>RECREATIONAL</td> <td align="right">IMO Number:</td> <td>*</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">Trade Indicator:</td> <td>Recreational</td> <td align="right">Call Sign:</td> <td>*</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">Hull Material:</td> <td>FRP (FIBERGLASS)</td> <td align="right">Hull Number:</td> <td>BVA432290882</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">Ship Builder:</td> <td>*</td> <td align="right">Year Built:</td> <td>1982</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">
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</td> <td align="right">Length (ft.):</td> <td>42.5</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">Hailing Port:</td> <td>WICKFORD RI</td> <td align="right">Hull Depth (ft.):</td> <td>5.5</td> </tr> <tr> <td rowspan="3" align="right">Owner:</td> <td rowspan="3"> </td> <td align="right">Hull Breadth (ft.):</td> <td>12.2</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">Gross Tonnage:</td> <td>14</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">Net Tonnage:</td> <td>12</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right">Documentation Issuance Date:</td> <td>November 03, 2003</td> <td align="right">Documentation Expiration Date:</td> <td>November 30, 2004</td> </tr> <tr> </tr> <tr> <td>Previous Vessel Names:</td> <td> RUNNING ON EMPTY
</td> <td class="gray"> </td> <td>Previous Vessel Owners:</td> <td> GARY E MILLER
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

The HIN BVA432290882, indicates that it was produced by Barre Boats, but this is probably in error... it is probably foreign built and using a MIC code issued by someone other than the USCG. I doubt it was built by Barre Boats, since the description of the company says that it wasn't founded until 1985, and that it produced mainly small work boats.

BTW, interpreting the HIN, see here.

More on HIN's here. Given the BVA MIC code, I'm guessing the boat was actually built in the Far East or Europe and then imported into the United States.
 

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Joesaila, SD,

All good info. One thing I'll add is that the USCG will recycle HIN builder codes if a builder has shut down.

If we could find a list of recycled builder codes, or an HIN registry from the early '80s, we should be able to give this fellow an answer.
 

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Joesaila, SD,

All good info. One thing I'll add is that the USCG will recycle HIN builder codes if a builder has shut down.

If we could find a list of recycled builder codes, or an HIN registry from the early '80s, we should be able to give this fellow an answer.
Very true. My old sabot (1974) says right on it (stamped into the wood) that it was built by Melcraft in Costa Mesa California yet the builder code in the HIN (MEL) comes up as Dixie Boats LTD in Newton, NC (right up the road from me oddly enough).
 

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It's actually pretty stupid IMHO to recycle HIN MICs. But with three places and 26 letters, you only have about 17000 total combinations.
Joesaila, SD,

All good info. One thing I'll add is that the USCG will recycle HIN builder codes if a builder has shut down.

If we could find a list of recycled builder codes, or an HIN registry from the early '80s, we should be able to give this fellow an answer.
 

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You'd think that when they ran out of letters they would have added a place.instead of recycling. That's what they're doing with IP addresses :)
 

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Technically, they're adding TWO places. :) IPv4 vs. IPv6. :)
You'd think that when they ran out of letters they would have added a place.instead of recycling. That's what they're doing with IP addresses :)
 

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"Shambala" Denis Miller

Hello

"Shambala" is a Yung Sung 54 built in Taiwan. I have sailed on this vessel many times in Narragansett Bay and to the US Virgin Islands. Gary Miller was a very good freind of mine and I would like to contact him. We lost touch 10 years ago when he sailed to South America and I moved to the Virgin Islands. I now live in Costa Rica and would appreciate anyone who has information about him

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Tom Petrone
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Guanacaste, Costa Rica
 

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Hi Tom,
I found your post after a google search of Gary and Shambala. This is a very strange story. Just after Gary sold his practice in RI, I went out on his boat with 3 other couples and his girlfriend. Im not quite sure of the year. The trip was a return favor to the person who sold his practice for him. It was an incredibly amazing day. In any event as I was told later on his way to the Caribbean he stopped in Bermuda to meet his GF. However he hit a major storm on the way there and suffered major damage to his boat. The person who invited me on the sail that day in RI was a close friend who I did not see for several years for a variety of reasons. One year ago he came to my home in the midst of suffering from a brain tumor and a stroke which had damaged his speech somewhat. (this is the person who brokered the sale of Gary's practice.)
While he was at my home we asked if he had heard from Gary. He then proceeded to tell a very disturbing story. Probably best repeated in a private message.My friend was buried today and for the first time in many years I was with the other people on the sail that day. Of course we talked about the day on the bay and questions were asked about Gary. Apparently I was the only one who had heard the story. So tonite I do a google search and this is the thread I find. Contact me and i will tell what i was told. I dont have enough posts for a PM.
 

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Hello Den

Great to hear some news. I flew to Bermuda after the storm they were in to help Gary sail to the US Virgin Islands. We need to have one more Sailnet conversation on this thread before they allow me to give you my email address. Really looking forward to hearing from you.

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Hi Tom,
I will try to scan and post a couple of pictures that I have of this boat. Im sure Gary is in some of them. It was my first time on a sailboat. That trip was mentioned in my friends eulogy because everyone who participated has remembered that day as just incredible.

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Administrator- 5 Post Rule Is Ridiculous

I, like these gentlemen, tried today to contact someone after doing a search and was prevented from doing so due to this rule.

I fail to see it's added utility compared to normal monitoring and response to complaints of abuses. You ought to consider removing this restriction.

Allot of good contacts are prevented from happening.
 

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for the newbies (like I ain't:rolleyes:) if you spell the punctuation, i.e. use me "at" wherever "dot" com the robots have not caught up yet.
patriot,

noble thoought, the only problem is that in far too many cases, a "person" of less than stellar intentions gleans the email addresses for spam purposes. (I'm sure that later in the day, the mods will give a far clearer answer.)
 

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I, like these gentlemen, tried today to contact someone after doing a search and was prevented from doing so due to this rule.

I fail to see it's added utility compared to normal monitoring and response to complaints of abuses. You ought to consider removing this restriction.

Allot of good contacts are prevented from happening.

It's essentially a way to ensure that someone who joins is serious, and not just a spammer.
I have been on sites where they allow first posters to PM and post pics/links with no regulation, and have had everything, advertisements, porn, and outright scams show up on the board or in your PM box.
So it seems like a harsh rule, but is actually making sailnet a better place.

As it is, there is the occasional spam that shows up in the forums, but they seem to be dealt with fairly quickly, and you can't eliminate that without instituting a much more involved registration/verification process.

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It's essentially a way to ensure that someone who joins is serious, and not just a spammer.
I have been on sites where they allow first posters to PM and post pics/links with no regulation, and have had everything, advertisements, porn, and outright scams show up on the board or in your PM box.
So it seems like a harsh rule, but is actually making sailnet a better place.

As it is, there is the occasional spam that shows up in the forums, but they seem to be dealt with fairly quickly, and you can't eliminate that without instituting a much more involved registration/verification process.

Ken.
Thanks for the good explanation Ken.

I'll just add that SailorPatriot is not the first to make that suggestion. We hear it fairly regularly and while we understand the point that's being made, we're persuaded that the current approach is far preferable. We have to do a lot less "monitoring and response to complaints of abuses" this way, which is how we like it.;)
 
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