[Minnesail]

Which is preferable, "wing on wing" or "wing and wing"?

I did a search on SailNet and found 717 hits on WoW and 5,040 for WaW. The fourth edition of The Annapolis Book of Seamanship only lists "wing-and-wing" in the index.

So is "wing-and-wing" the correct thing to say?

 

[Faster]

Wing'n'wing.....

 

[Multihullgirl]

I like my wings with Primo's Pepper Sauce ("Hotter than the Devil's Pecker")

edit:
the proprietor is a friend of a friend. The sauce is good. check it out
http://www.primospeppers.com/index.html

 

[newhaul]

Wing and wing meaning poled out boat ways never heard wing on wing myself also best with BBQ sauce

 

[christian.hess]

Which is preferable, "wing on wing" or "wing and wing"?

I did a search on SailNet and found 717 hits on WoW and 5,040 for WaW. The fourth edition of The Annapolis Book of Seamanship only lists "wing-and-wing" in the index.

So is "wing-and-wing" the correct thing to say?

fasters got it

just say it FASTER and it becomes nwing

everyone will understand what your are trying to say

jajaja

 

[ccriders]

And just how hot is the Devil's pecker?
John

 

[Don L]

And just how hot is the Devil's pecker?
John

and just how would one know

 

[socal c25]

wing N wing is the term I use.

 

[Minnewaska]

If the Annapolis book says 'and', I would be inclined to believe it was correct. I suspect the typical wing 'n wing is more easily heard as On than And.

 

[malyea]

Been wondering about this term myself...would've lost the bet...

FWIW - Chapman's 1960 edition, pg. 84 says..."Sailing before the wind, sails are sometimes set on opposite sides of the boat; this is called wing and wing."

 

[Minnesail]

If Annapolis and and Chapman's both say "wing and wing" then I guess that settles it. I suspect you all are right, people say it fast "wing 'n wing" and that gets misheard as "wing on wing."

Regarding the Devil's pecker, I'm not sure that's strictly sailing related...

 

[paikea]

This is a "forced" wing'n'wing from last weekend's sailing. We were on dead run, we tied the boom to a cleat at the bow on one side and the genoa with a genoa mast forcefully spread on the other side. Never seen that before! Worked really well!

 

[Faster]

This is a "forced" wing'n'wing from last weekend's sailing. We were on dead run, we tied the boom to a cleat at the bow on one side and the genoa with a genoa mast forcefully spread on the other side. Never seen that before! Worked really well!

Genoa mast?? AKA whisker pole??

 

[Minnesail]

This is a "forced" wing'n'wing from last weekend's sailing. We were on dead run, we tied the boom to a cleat at the bow on one side and the genoa with a genoa mast forcefully spread on the other side. Never seen that before! Worked really well!

Nice!

Here's me wing and wing my first day out this year. There was almost no wind, but with the big 170 nylon genoa poled out we managed to drift along.

 

[paikea]

Genoa mast?? AKA whisker pole??

Ah Faster, is that not correct? Be gentle on me please. I am still learning. I thought the instructor called that a genoa mast. But maybe I got it wrong.
There is so much covered each time but its beautifully starting to make sense as a whole. I liveaboard almost every weekend on courses and sort of covering pretty much everything possible.

 

[SVAuspicious]

Genoa mast?? AKA whisker pole??

English is her fourth or fifth language. She speaks it as well or better than many for whom English is his or her first language, particularly Americans and Canadians. *grin*

 

[Capt Len]

Just assumed that anyone who didn't say 'eh? 'a lot had a speech impendiment. Good to no there may be other explanations.

 

[newhaul]

Len you forgot the "EH" in that one

 

[christian.hess]

Ah Faster, is that not correct? Be gentle on me please. I am still learning. I thought the instructor called that a genoa mast. But maybe I got it wrong.
There is so much covered each time but its beautifully starting to make sense as a whole. I liveaboard almost every weekend on courses and sort of covering pretty much everything possible.

paikea your pic looks great to me with the slight exception of the clew being a bit of a ways from the whisker pole(its also pointed downwards a bit) its can be easy to wrap something there and be a strain to get off also the sheet is bending over the lifelines which is always a no no espcially of you get a good gust...you can reroute the sheet with a twinger or of you have blocks on tracks inside out or simply put not on something that may bind.

however remember that with poles of any type to begin with, its a bit easier to always be slightly higher than parallel to the water that way you never experience an unwanted pole dip which can be "awkward" especially in high winds...

HAPPY SAILING BTW

 

[nolatom]

New controversy?:

Is that jib winged out or wung out?

I've always been a "wung" guy, though I suspect it is grammatically uncouth.