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Wreck of Columbus's Ship Found Off Haitian Coast
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yes, the article says that the evidence 'strongly suggests' that it is the Santa Maria. Interesting that a higher level of certainty than that is not enough for some people about climate change. There is an interesting dynamic in the US (not so much elsewhere) about the role of scientists and whether they can be trusted.
Back to the wreck. I imagine that some metal objects would have survived that would have been consistent with Spain at that time. Hard to believe that any wood is there.
Back to the wreck. I imagine that some metal objects would have survived that would have been consistent with Spain at that time. Hard to believe that any wood is there.
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So what safety gear do you think CC should have had aboard his ship in order to avoid this disaster? Was he and his crew experienced or was this the first time they had crossed the Atlantic?
I want to learn from the loss of his vessel in the most judgmental way possible.
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I want to learn from the loss of his vessel in the most judgmental way possible.
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Obviously this wasn't a real bluewater boat.
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Near as I can tell, did not have a reliable engine and its traditional underbody could not claw off a lee shore.
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"So what safety gear do you think CC should have had aboard his ship in order to avoid this disaster?"
Let's see...sailing for the Spanish Crown during the Spanish Inquisition? Obviously, he had the blessings of the Church and Crown, what more would he need? To even suggest that he would need more than that, would be heresy!
Of course, if all three had sunk mid-ocean in a storm, it might have bought some more time for all the indigenous peoples in the West.
Let's see...sailing for the Spanish Crown during the Spanish Inquisition? Obviously, he had the blessings of the Church and Crown, what more would he need? To even suggest that he would need more than that, would be heresy!
Of course, if all three had sunk mid-ocean in a storm, it might have bought some more time for all the indigenous peoples in the West.
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Oh whatever. Smallpox builds character.
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No,no,no you've all got it wrong.
This vessel should never been allowed to anchor in the environmentally sensitive area,they obviously scoffed the MSD discharge consideration, were uninsured and a vessel at risk.
these moral shortcomings have blatantly resulted in another derelict vessel sinking and abandoned for someone else to clean up.
And the crew building a fort ashore only proves they were not real sailors and only wanted to squat on public beaches to avoid taxation just like all those that followed.
A mooring field, anchoring restrictions and insurance requirements would have avoided all this.
This vessel should never been allowed to anchor in the environmentally sensitive area,they obviously scoffed the MSD discharge consideration, were uninsured and a vessel at risk.
these moral shortcomings have blatantly resulted in another derelict vessel sinking and abandoned for someone else to clean up.
And the crew building a fort ashore only proves they were not real sailors and only wanted to squat on public beaches to avoid taxation just like all those that followed.
A mooring field, anchoring restrictions and insurance requirements would have avoided all this.
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I saw articles about this find earlier today. Whether it is the ship or not, I feel they should leave it where it is. By now, it's likely that anything left is a habitat for fish and coral and should be left alone. Perhaps made into a protected nature reserve.
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na', tear it up.
let's see what's down there and find out what exactly it is.the fish will be fine,or possibly lunch.
let's see what's down there and find out what exactly it is.the fish will be fine,or possibly lunch.
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that someone has already stolen the canon from the wreck, but what a shame.
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