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I am new to diesels and thus anything Yanmar. Diagnosing a hard starting problem with a 1978 3qm30 raw water cooled, it appears I may need a new starter. For those with more years of diesel/Yanmar experience, where do you go for most cost effective parts? Anyone here have a starter for sale? I am thinking possibly having it reconditioned/rebuilt. How difficult is it typically to get this vintage of a starter rebuilt? Thanks...
 

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When my starter went the shop wanted $200 to rewind it and Yanmar wanted something like $400 for a new one. I got an aftermarket starter for a tractor engine for $102 (included 2 day shipping). Everyone on forums said it wouldn't last, but that was 4 years ago.
 

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Had mine totally rebuilt by a starter/alternator repair shop in Pensacola. Cost 95 dollars. Took two days from delivery to pickup.
 

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Make sure you need a starter......same thing happened to me ! Diagnose it by jumping the solenoid on the starter itself ! Could be a loose connection between start button and starter or too small a wire etc! Diagnose the problem before buying parts
 

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there are options.

rebuild - pretty cheap local automotive electric shop

replace from tractor or industrial dealer - reasonable

boneyard - cheap

buy from marine dealer - arm + leg + second mortgage on your home
 

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If the starter will not turn at all, turn on the battery master and the ignition (ignition "on" but NOT the full turn of the key to start the motor) and try shorting the two terminals at the back of the starter solenoid with a srewdriver or jump leads.
If the starter responds, then the problem is likely to be the starter solenoid, or possibly the ignition key positive feed to the starter solenoid is not reaching the solenoid. (It happened to me once... all that happened was that the wee lead from the ignition key to the solenoid had fallen off.... the wee lead is 12V positive, and when the ignition key is turned hard to the right, the wee 12V lead sends enough current to the solenoid to close the solenoid switch and command the starter to turn, fed by the enormous current from the big thick leads from the battery).

The solenoid is just a form of ignition key-triggered switch (a big heavy-duty relay). It is a big switch because of the huge currents that the starter demands. Such currents could never be carried by the ignition switch alone. It would overheat instantly.
If you put a screwdriver across the terminals at the back of the solenoid, you are by-passing the solenoid (simulating the solenoid closing in normal operation). Get ready for a big loud "click" and a big spark as the srewdriver takes the current load. Keep all hands clear of the flywheel, of course.
If the starter does not respond, then perhaps the starter windings have gone.
Make sure you are getting (nominal) 12 V at the solenoid terminal closest to the battery. Just use your multimeter between the solenoid terminal and the battery negative. Make sure your battery master switch is "on", of course, otherwise there would be no voltage arriving at the battery side of the solenoid.
Solenoids are normally reliable units. I have never known one to fail. Others have, I guess.

Stauffer, starters are normally reliable units. Investigate it before you buy another one, or the problem will just follow you.

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Unless you are able to hand start your diesel, carrying a spare starter is a small investment in peace of mind. I bought a cheap-ish Chinese non OEM which was half the price of a Yanmar unit (which is made by Hitachi).
It languished in a locker for a few years, but the day came when I needed it.
I have had an auto electrician rebuild the original unit, which is now waiting in the locker. I will report if or when the El cheapo unit fails.
 

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The starter motors are DC and should have carbon brushes, which are usually the fail point. Yanmars are widely used in truck mounted cab over refrigeration units to drive the compressor so maybe if you need a starter you could look for a salvage part from them.
 
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