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Arghhhhh!!!!!!! Anyone find my keys????

4.7K views 41 replies 20 participants last post by  Cruisingdad  
#1 ·
Well, we were all ready to pull outta Bimini tomorrow morning and we went to pull the engine off the dink. We lock the outboard using a special masterlock outboard lock - hardened steel, the works - and now we can't find the key to it. Stupidly we never separated the two keys, so the spare is wherever the primary is. As a result, we can't pull the engine off the dink, and we can't tow it with the engine on. There's a short weather window to head to Nassau on Thursday and Friday, and if we don't get to South Cat Cay tomorrow we'll miss it. As far as I can find, there are no locksmiths on Bimini either. I'll be checking with the marina office tomorrow. Anyway, some updates and pics up on our blog, and our plans once we can get out of here...
 
#2 ·
Will a bolt cutter work? I have no idea how that Master is set up, Im just trying to throw out suggestions, ones you probably already thought of. Hardened might be a challenge.
Can you drill out the (lock) cylinder?
 
#6 ·
Perhaps you can try a large flat-head screwdriver placed between the exposed lock bolt and sliding metal cover. Using a BFH, try to pry the bolt out of the lock. Its not looking like you have many options as those locks are a very good theft deterrent.
 
#7 ·
Ummmm - Jody, that would be the American Automobile Association, not the Bahamas Automobile Association. The total population of all of the islands around Bimini is 1600. We have to take our dinghy to get to the largest town on Bimini - Alice Town - and you can walk up and back the main street in about 10 minutes. As far as I'm aware, the closest locksmiths would be in Miami (50nm across the Gulf Stream) or Nassau (110nm across the Grand Bahama Banks and the Tongue of the Ocean). Hopefully I'll be able to find a nice Bimini-ian with several good drill bits and lubricating oil so I can try to drill out the lock. Even better, maybe someone found the keys and dropped them off at the lost and found :)

The lock is almost completely covered by the bar, which is hardened steel. We're not getting bolt cutters or a hacksaw in. We have a Roto-Zip with a metal cutting wheel that we may try, but I'm concerned about sparks hitting the Hypalon and damaging the dinghy itself.
 
#8 ·
That lock isn't particularly hard to pick... any good locksmith should be able to open in a few minutes.

If you try the rotozip blade, you can always cover the dinghy with some cloth.... to protect the dinghy from the sparks.
 
#12 ·
Labatt,

Just throwing out ideas. If you can't find a locksmith in Bimini is there any way you can find a place to stow the darn thing deflated, rolled up with the outboard on and maybe find a locksmith in Nassau? Course I don't know what kind of dinghy you have or how practical that would be. Also your dinghy might be an intregal part of your emergency gear and wouldn't do you much good deflated if you had to use it quick. Like I said, just throwing out ideas to save you a buck or two or maybe some precious time.
 
#13 ·
We'll try a few things tomorrow. There's got to be someone with some locksmith experience around here - there are buildings, they have locks, locks sometimes need work. We'll see. With regards to the dinghy itself, it's a 10' RIB that weighs 180lbs dry plus a 110lb 20HP motor on the back that sticks down 8-10" below the waterline. We normally store the engine on our stern rail and the dinghy on the foredeck, upside down and tied down. The weather is supposed to be rough going across the banks to the Tongue of the Ocean and Nassau on Thursday/Friday (5-8ft seas) so I need to make sure everything is VERY secure on deck. I'd be afraid that I'd pummel the deck with the prop and engine if I tried to strap it on the foredeck for that passage. Worse case scenario, the weather is supposed to moderate on Monday or Tuesday, and I MAY be able to do the passage to Nassau dragging the thing behind me.
 
#15 ·
if that master lock is one with rivets through the stacked plates that form the lock body you can cut off the end of the rivets & separate the plates. then you can take the lock apart. in the picture it looks like i can see the bottom of the lock with the rivets .
 
#17 ·
Unfortunately the bar is one solid forged piece with a few holes cut in it to fit the lock through and to fit the engine clamps through. What I would give for it to not be so strong. We're going to try a set of heavy duty snips to see if they will work before resorting to power tools.
 
#18 ·
Labatt, If all else fails, and you cannot get the lock off, Take a large ball peen hammer. and with a HARD and SWIFT BLOW, strike the opposite end of the locking mechanism to where the lock is. this will break the weak aluminum cast handle. If you are good, or lucky just the end of the handle will break off that the lock is holding onto. I'm sure you can imagine what will happen if you miss! Those handles are easy to replace. Sorry my other suggestion may not work in this circumstance.
 
#21 ·
Chris, er Labatt,

You may want to change the link from "we lock it using a special outboard engine lock (click here)." It points to an unsubscribe link for American Registry...

From the pix it looks like a Master Lock 430DSPT Outboard Motor Padlock. There is one review on it in Amazon from a guy that had his motor stolen. It seems that he theif pried the lock open with a tire iron. I am pretty sure that you can borrow a tire iron somewhere in Bimini.

Good luck!

- Ed
 
#22 ·
Thank you to S. Kennedy, one of our blog followers! She reminded me that the lock was actually brass and that a bit of it was peeking over the top. I grabbed our hacksaw, sawed through it like butter, and it's off! I kept staring at everything that said "hardened steel", and my wife kept saying that there wasn't enough to saw, but apparently there was, and we're all good!
 
#27 ·
Not exactly a great endorsement of the system as a theft deterrent. :)

I prefer the Stazo outboard locks, but seriously doubt you would be able to get one off that easily.
 
#23 ·
Thanks Ed for the correction... I find myself unsubscribing from a million lists I've joined over the past several years to reduce the amount of mail I get - when I can only download mail using satellite I prefer to minimize time online :). I guess I pasted the wrong URL in!
 
#24 ·
Just one other followup - I called Master Lock to see what kind of lock it is so I could get a new one. They're sending me a new one for free even though it was due to losing a key. Now that's standing behind a product. Unfortunately I won't be able to get it for 2-3 months since it costs too much to ship stuff to the Bahamas via Fedex/UPS and I don't know where I'll be in 30 days (regular mail)...
 
#26 ·
Labatt,

Good job, buddy. Nothing but smooth sailing and fair winds the rest of your cruise. You get paradice while the rest of us work. Speaking of work, I better get going...umm....dammit, where did I leave my keys?.........