Winter storage....eeeks...we still have two months left in our season

 

In SoCal we just finished the two months where it's too hot to sail, and now our 10 months or so of sunny warm weather and perfect wind begin...

 

Lotsa places on City Island, if you don't mind paying the Throgs Neck Bridge toll when you go north to work on your boat.

I like Stuyvesant YC. Check ActiveCaptain - The Interactive Cruising Guidebook - Marina Reviews, Fuel Prices, Anchorages for users' reviews.

 

A general boatyard rule of thumb is: last in = first out.
You mentioned 'dry storage'. I may be mistaken but to me this implies storing your boat (indoors) inside a shed or hangar - some boat yards have them. This would likely be the most expensive option.
Shrink wrapping would imply that your boat would be stored outdoors on jack stands. This would be the mid-range expensive option.
Some marinas offer in-water storage which would be the cheapest option. You would still want to do a short haul in the spring for bottom maintenance though. I'm reasonably confident that this option is available in Manhasset, Glen Cove and Huntington marinas.
I'm not a fan of shrink wrapping because of the expense and the waste of materials it creates. You can buy a lot of tarps and 1x3"s for less then the $10/ft cost of shrink wrapping. Good luck whichever way you go.

 

Thanks for the replies!

@chef2sail - Yes way too fast. I have to have it off my mooring by Oct 15th. Still hoping to have a few more weeks of good weather.

@jjablonowski - I'll call around CI and compare prices. Tolls aren't an issue but accessibility to public transit is... Do most places let you work on your boat in the winter or should I be asking this question when I call?

@CalebD - You're right, I was contradicting myself. I'm figuring on keeping it outside, out of the water. This is my first season so all this is new to me. I do agree that shrink-wrapping seems expensive and excessive. My issue is that I don't own a vehicle so getting supplies to the yard to do it myself is a hurdle. I've searched the forums and read other's DIY tarp covers and they seem pretty elaborate. Any suggestions or links on how to do this easily would be great. It would be something I'd just use for the winter, because I don't have a place to store it. Do Marinas frown on you doing it yourself? Is this something I would need to verify before deciding on a place?

thanks again,

Brett

 

Brett,
You are going to have to ask each yard what is allowed in terms of DIY.
I just used the rates from Brewers in Glen Cove to get you an estimate for winter storage for your 25' sailboat in the NYC area. I used them as they have their updated 2010/11 prices updated and I am familiar with their yard.

Power wash: $81 ($3.25/ft - mandatory)
Shrink wrap: $406 ($16.25/ft)
Outside storage-mast up: $1300
Total: $1787 just for the winter.

Their in-water storage fee is: $850 for your 25' boat.
Their contract makes it sound like most DIY activity is not allowed but I know one fellow who keeps his boat there and a lot of DIY activities happened on his boat.

I'd definitely look into the places on City Island for price comparison shopping. Brewers GC will likely be on the high side of estimates you get from other yards in the area.
These winter storage prices might make you think again about joining a club like Hempstead Harbor Club that provides both summer and winter services at a more reasonable yearly price.
The cheapest way to deal with this is if you had a driveway and a trailer for your boat.
Whatever you do it is going to cost something.
Good luck with your winter storage search.

 

I also keep my boat at Stuyvesant YC on CI. Members get first pick, but there's almost always room for strangers. Cost is about $40/ft mast in (incl discount for paying upfront). You can do whatever you want yourself or bring in pros of your choosing. NYC subway goes to Pelham Bay Park and from there a bus can bring you to CI. Check Welcome to Stuyvesant Yacht Club for more info.

 

Glen Cove Marina (next door to Brewers that Caleb mentioned) is $44/ft for outside storage mast up including powerwashing. You can get a 10% discount if paid in full by Sept 30. That's significantly less than Brewers. They are very good about getting you in early if you wish.

 

I'm also at Glen Cove marina. Cheaper than Brewers. I'm new at this, so not a lot to compare it to, but they were good to deal with. I'm headed back for this winter. If you are going to do a lot of work, be prepared to have a long extension cord. There are electrical outlets around the outside of the storage lot, but if you are in the middle of the scrum, you may need 150 feet of cordage or more to get power.

 

Brett, Gulfway in Port Wash. reasonable and if you are working on the boat, very short walk to west marine and hardware store...and close to food. Hugo

 

I'm not sure if it's a faux pas to bump such an old thread, but it's relevant.

I'm looking for Winter storage and hit up a couple places on City Island (. The quotes are all around $1300. Does that seem like a decent price (edit - all places that will allow me to do yard work)? I just don't want to get massively ripped off

Does everyone do shrink wrap for the Winter?

 

Haley,
Also check out Manhasset Bay Shipyard
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The cost for wintering a 25' sailboat is going to be in the $1000 range pretty much everywhere... unless you belong to a club (like Hempstead Harbor Club).

Over winter in water storage may be cheaper at some places.

 

I've been here the last two winters and will be back for a third. Cheaper than Brewers (don't have to subsidize a pool, etc.). They were good enough to haul me just before Sandy hit (a week ahead of my scheduled haul date) and we came through just fine. That certainly buys some loyalty.

 

Awesome. Thanks guys. I'm going to hit them up for a quote. Also need to figure out how long it would take to get up there from Brooklyn I have a couple weekends of work to do for next season.

 

I'd recommend weeks yacht yard in Patchogue as an excellent family yard but probably way too far for you.

 

Haley,
I though you were in the World's Fair marina, near LaGuardia?
Now you are down in Brooklyn?

3 - 4 hours to Manhassett Bay depending on where you are in Brooklyn.

 

Sorry this is a little off topic...

I am looking at storing my Tartan outside in MN. I have not purchased yet and am considering a >20 y/o boat versus a 8 y/o epoxy hull boat. I am wondering if the -20 F temps we have here is going to cause any more trouble than the >15F temps I grew up with...In particular there are Marelon thru hulls and CF mast etc...any issues with the deep freeze?

Thanks
DD

 

The hard parts of your Tartain are not going to care they are outside, other than wanting a good cover to keep the decks clear of freezing water/snow. However, plenty of other things are. At temps that low, be sure to use -100f antifreeze. If the standard -50f antifreeze is diluted in the process of flushing out your systems, its antifreeze capacity becomes severely reduced. Those are burst ratings, not freeze ratings, btw. Each of these products actually freeze at much warmer temps. The -50 freezes at a temp well above zero. The question of when your hoses will burst, due the freeze expansion, is more than I'm willing to test. I understand the burst rating is based on metal.