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A lesser known gale prediction trick

5.6K views 24 replies 15 participants last post by  Minnewaska  
#1 ·
I don't know if I've actually read, or heard this anywhere, but I have an observation that I make from time to time that I find is very accurate in predicting gales.

When the weather is reasonably calm, or somewhat windy (doesn't have to be dead calm like "the calm before the storm") if you see a large number of seagulls milling about inland in open, flat areas, you're in for a pounding.

I learned this trick in a rural school in Australia that I attended which was near some waterways. The school has big grassy sports fields and I was usually looking out the window. Periodically, I'd see lots of seagulls milling about on the cricket pitch (open grassy field) looking bored.

Being from the PNW, I know that these white/grey flying rats are usually out and about looking for food. Milling about out in the open, where they can't find food and appear vulnerable seemed like odd seagull behavior to me. I started to notice that a few hours after observing these behavious there would be a huge windstorm.

2 days ago, the wind was predicted to be 15-25, but I thought it would be higher. I even put on my BFS T-shirt hoping for some photos of a BFS and sure enough, an unforecast gale appeared.

See the story and photos here: MedSailor's BFS

Today, while at home, we're getting pounded again by another wind storm and this morning the seagulls were inland again milling about the school yard.

Anyone else know of this trick?

MedSailor
 
#9 ·
Usually you won't see seagulls 3 miles offshore, so you'll need better gale prediction techniques out there.

HOWEVER, if you DO see a bunch of seagulls trying to land on your boat 3 miles offshore, it likely means that there was a huge earthquake and your former cruising grounds have sunk into the sea. So, what it really means is that you're now 30 miles offshore.

;)

MedSailor
 
#14 ·
I would imagine in the past sailors were very attuned to sights, smells and wave patterns that would give them clues. That would include animals.

It makes you wonder how much was accurate and how much was "old sailors tales"...
 
#20 ·
I would imagine in the past sailors were very attuned to sights, smells and wave patterns that would give them clues. That would include animals.

It makes you wonder how much was accurate and how much was "old sailors tales"...
At sea I get a feeling, but its probably the unconscious acvumulation of facts: waves change height and direction, breeze less consistent or less lulls, or more gusts, increasing high cloud, etc

A lot of the old sailor tales and rhymes were indeed correct! But only for the places they were made up! Red sky at night: yes in the UK means weather system has passed, but on the east coast of the USA could mean system coming.
 
#15 ·
motissier was very big on wave patterns, and sea life, especially birds...

he also had the famous dolphin pointing him away from the rocks scenario...

a lot of stuff can be learned...but lost these days...

thanks for the tip
 
#18 ·
I knew there was a nautical saying regarding this:

Seagull, seagull, sit on the sand,
It's a sign of rain when you are at hand

In general, birds roost more during a period of low pressure. Before a hurricane, flocks of birds will be seen roosting. Take off may be harder when the pressure is low or the air is thinner because the natural updrafts are lessened.
 
#21 ·
old sailor lore was very good way to keep from dying at ea. it worked. some things, such as red sky were specific, i noticed to temperate zones, from which many came and sailed.
here in tropics, red sky just means a beautiful sunrise
before furycames is not red sky but gorgeous sunrises and sunsets then cloudy days for 4 days with rain and wind.
before furycames in long island, n y, we did have red sky. very memorable ones.
sailing hudson river red sky meant no sailing today, as the old salt who taught us would not sail on a red sky day. he was always correct.
was also an apple farmer.
knew his weather cold, and was still alive after years of rtw tallships and steam ship work.
there are other signs at sea to follow with impending changes...we learn them as we go. and if we are smart we remember them.
old salt lore will save your life at sea, if not make your day improved if followed.
 
#23 ·
Here is a better photo of the granular ant hill surrounding the entrance that you see before a big rain.
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The website this photo came from purports to have all kinds of weather forecasting lore. I don't have experience with most of them myself, but I have heard of some of them.

Learn the tricks and impress your friends with your saltiness! Arrrrr!;)
Weather forecasting without technology-- with lots of annoying adds and pop-ups

MedSailor