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Adjusting Your Rig

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#1 · (Edited)
Adjusting Your Rig, step by step.

Small introductory disclaimer (because you Americans love to sue people):

For the record it is my strong personal opinion and belief that any and all work performed in a boat's rig should be performed and done by appropriate professionals, (that know what they are doing, because I have seen too many "rig professionals" that don't have a clue of what they are doing), do it yourself only if you have at least 3 ounces of brain and if have been around boats long enough and know with a minimal amount what you are doing..If you don't, PLEASE DON'T TOUCH IT, IT's NOT FOR YOU.

If you damage your rigging, your boat and/or hurt yourself or others don't come here blame me..get a life, I wrote this for intelligent people only.

This I write bellow is to help you get by should you not find a rigger near you. IT IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY.


Now the post:

A few months ago, one of our most dear friends here at Sailnet was stranded with a mast down problem, in a location where proper rigging professionals were scarce and the knowledge about rigging of the existing "rig professionals" was par to the local baker, veterinary and dentist…(I think he mentioned they were the same guy)…

So, and since he asked, I wrote him a small letter (sorry for the spelling mistakes and grammar), where I tried to explain to him how to set his rig in a way that would allow him to continue his journey and even get by in the future.

Please note this is my own experience, and other people may have better procedures..like I say, I am not a professional, and do this based on my own experiences. So if you don't like it, write you own and post here. It will only enrich the site. Please keep disagreements to PM level only, and I will discuss with you, should you not like or agree with me. Thank you.

HOW TO ADJUST AND SET YOUR RIGGING:

First you need understand this:

We will do 3 basic adjustment types:

• Lateral Adjustment
• Longitudinal Adjustment
• Sailing (done later) Adjustmet


1) Lateral Adjustment.

(NOTE: this has to be done in a day with no wind with the boat perfectly horizontal, shift weight if you have to, to balance the boat).

a) Install the mast, and make sure the intermediate and lower shrouds are lose, but attached.

b) Make sure the stays and back stays are attached but not over tightened. At this point you want the mast as vertical as possible.

c) Remove the boom, or lower it so its not pulling on the mast, we will need the topping lift.

d) If the mast is keel stepped, remove the centering thru deck bushings at this stage.

e) Once the mast is up and vertical by eye observation, take the topping lift or the main halyard and measure the distance from the top of the mast to the boat's toe rail on port side. Repeat on starboard side, make sure the location of measure is symmetrical and at the same distance from the bow.
f) If the distances are not the same, tighten the side with the longest measurement.

g) Tighten the upper shrouds to a snug fit the same number of turns on each side, until the mast is perfectly centered.

2) Longitudinal Adjustment. (Rake)

(NOTE: this has to be done in a day with no wind with the boat perfectly horizontal, shift weight if you have to balance the boat).

Rake will help increase or decrease Weather helm. Aft Rake increases weather helm, improving pointing, forward rake does the opposite.

Normal rake is 1 to 2Âş degrees aft for cruiser boats and up to 4Âş deg aft for high performance racers.

a) Install a bucket with water under the boom by the mast.

b) Attach a heavy object to the main sail halyard and dip it the bucket but it should not touch the bottom of the bucket. (The bucket and water are used to dampen the swinging of the halyard.)

c) Measure P, which is the distance from the boom to the top of the mast.

d) Measure the distance from the halyard to the edge of the mast, at the gooseneck.

The distance should be as follows in the table:

Image
Note, if you have a T shaped mast head, for halyard sheaves, add the distance of the T leg to mast to the above calculations.

Here is an example:

Our friend's mast is 42 feet long, or 12,8 meters, therefore for:

0,5Âş Deg rake = 11,52 cm = 4,33 Inches
1Âş Deg rake = 22,4 cm = 8,66 Inches
2Âş Deg rake = 44,8 cm = 17,3 Inches
3Âş Deg rake = 67,2 cm = 26,3 Inches

He also had a mizzen mast, and in his case, the mizzen mast has 21 feet, or 6,4 meters, therefore, for:

0,5Âş Deg rake = 5,76 cm = 1,96 Inches
1Âş Deg rake = 11,2 cm = 4,33 Inches
2Âş Deg rake = 22,4 cm = 8,66 Inches
3Âş Deg rake = 33,6 cm = 12,99Inches

e) Measure the distance from the halyard to the edge of the mast, at the gooseneck.

f) Adjust the rake as needed, using the above table, using the stays and triatic also, (should you have a triatic), don't forget that, ok?

g) Once all is where it should be, and the mast is where you want it, I would go with a rake of 1 Âş Deg for both masts for cruisers and 3% for racers.

h) Later on, once you sail, if you "feel" you need more rake use above numbers and adjust all again.

Note if you have a mizzen, for the triatic, you need a little help to get up there, but try to do it once with only one climb.

3)Dynamic Adjustment.

This will be obviously done later, if you feel you need more bend or better mast flexibility. See note further down, as at this stage we need to talk about tension in the rig.

The next step is therefore set the right shroud tension.

RIG TENSION​

1) Shroud tension

We now need to tension the upper shrouds, so let's tension them.
The values I calculated for our friend in the example are as follows:

a) All shrouds, including the upper, intermediate and lower are to be tensioned to 15% of the cable breaking load which in his case was:

3/16 cable the breaking load is 4850 lbs, so 15% of that is 727,5 Lbs

1/4 cable the breaking load is 7054 lbs, so 15% of that is 1058 Lbs

5/16 cable the breaking load is 12566 lbs, so 15% of that is 1885Lbs

b) The stays and triatic are to be set at 20 to 25% of the breaking load.

Use the same calculations above, to calculate the setting values, if you have a LOOS gauge, use it to set these tensions.

c) Now for the main shrouds, if you don't have a Loos, or are just a cheap person, you can use a measuring tape. I did for many years.

You will need to attach a tape of at least 2 meters to the shroud, so that the zero or the beginning of the tape starts at the turnbuckle.

The rule is simple each 1mm of stretch means 5% of the breaking load, and that is valid for ANY CABLE IN A SHROUD, no matter what the diameter is!!!

So you want to have at least 3mm of "growing" or 0.11 inches stretch when you're at the right tension, for 15% tension…cool huh??

Simple. Repeat the other side. Don't do all 3 mm in one go. Do 1mm on each side and measure and adjust slowly so you don't throw the mast off alignment.

Once the upper shrouds are tensioned, go to the next step.

2) Mast Pre bend

Once the masts are where you want them to be, and before we tension the shrouds, we need to set the masts curvature, or pre-bend.

For this attach the halyard that was in the bucket so it ends at the mast foot.

Now adjust the baby stay and or forestays so that the belly of the mast goes forward. Takes a few tries.
The max bend at rest should not exceed half of the mast diameter.

3) Max Mast bend (back stay and or triatic if you have one)

Tension the back stay on the mizzen first, (if you have one), so that the distance from the vertical halyard to the mast is half of the mast's diameter (IMPORTANT - DO NOT EXCEED)

The mast bend when the back stay is pulled should never ever be more than 2% of the height of the mast from the top to the deck (not cabin). In our friends case with a 42 foot mast, at full back stay pull the mast top should not move back more than 10 inches. OK?

NOW IN THE WATER!! Dynamic Adjustment continuation of chapter 3 above.

OK so where are you going to set the intermediate and lower shrouds??

LOWERS

Easy. At dock, adjust the lowers so they are just tensile to the finger, use the Loos to set them equally port and starbord, they should be almost flexible at rest. Hard but not too much. These can only be adjusted once you sailed to measurel.

INTEMEDIATES


also at dock, Should have a flex of about ½ inch when at rest.


The lower shrouds adjustment


Now, when you go sailing, on the first tack, see if the mast is vertical and doesn't bend sideways when you are on a tack.
Look from underneath and see if it's straight.

If the mast bends to leeward, kind of like bellies to the low side, the lowers are too flexed.

Go to the lee side lower, and turn it a few turns, and note how many times you turned.

Then tack to the other side and see if its good. If its still bent, go on the lee side one and do the same number of turns plus a few more, repeat tacking and adjusting till all is good and straight.

The Intermediate shrouds adjustment


It's the same as with the lowers, except now it's the top part of the mast that "bends" to leeward if they are lose.

Those only adjust at the marina, ok??? You need to go up there.

So a recap:


1) Tighten by hand the upper shrouds till the mast is straight.
2) Adjust mast rake with stays and backstay/triatic.
3) Tension upper shrouds to 15% breaking load
4) Adjust mast pre-bend
5) Adjust back stay movement to not more than 2% mast lenght
6) Adjust lower shrouds while sailing
7) Adjust intermediates observing while sailing and adjusting at dock

Have fun.
 
#6 ·
Alex, if I corrected the very few errors in this, it wouldn't sound like you anymore. Excellent advice, and it's good to know we tune essentially the same way, breaking it down into "at dock" and "underway" procedures.

I have 1/4" stays on the old, more race-oriented boat, and I swear since I learned about tuning I get a great deal more performance out of it, even though my back stay is fixed (no Navtec lever or wheel or ram).

A point here about tensioning: Don't bother trying to align your prop shaft and coupler until AFTER you have tuned the rig, at least at dock. I don't care for saildrives, but one advantage is that this problem of a tensioned rig "bending" the boat slightly is avoided. If you have the most common cutlass bearing and spade rudder set-up, align the coupler at launch just to motor to your dock and to the mast crane (if your mast is out). Tighten the stays just enough to keep the mast up, and then go back to the dock for a beer. If it's calm and you aren't drunk, follow Alex's fine instructions. Tune the rig at dock.

Leave the boat. Wait a couple of days. Come back and see if your prop shaft is still aligned. Maybe it isn't. Realign it now that the boat is bent according to the rig tension and not because it's been drooping off a cradle or jackstands all winter. You will probably find enough of a misalignment to make you glad you checked it out.
 
#7 ·
Gui,

Thanks for an excellent set of instructions.

I have read through your post a couple of times already but I still need to reread it several times more to appreciate all its contents.

There are 2 comments I would like to make, always with due respect.

1. it would help to define the various types of stays on the mast for us non English readers.This to unsure that we correctly tighten the correct stay.

2. At one point you said you calculated the strength to be 15% of breaking strength. How do you arrive at this figure?

By the way you are spot on in your DISCLAIMER.

thanks again

xuraax
 
#9 ·
Gui,

1. it would help to define the various types of stays on the mast for us non English readers.This to unsure that we correctly tighten the correct stay.

2. At one point you said you calculated the strength to be 15% of breaking strength. How do you arrive at this figure?
Xuraax,

It's GIU !!!! Damn it!!!! (inside joke...don't worry):D :D

Now, for your information, I have learnt the technical english they use in the United States, so that you know I use (with some difficulty) their terms.

Stays are all cables and/or lines that pull the mast in the longitudinal axis, forward or backwards, such as Fore stay, Stay, back stay, baby stay and Triatic (for mizzen masts).

Shrouds are the ones that are located on the sides, normally attached to chain plates, and pass thru the spreaders.

As far as the 15%, I said I had calculated it, but it was in response to a question my friend had asked. He sails a heavy cruiser in moderate to heavy winds, and 15% seemed like a good all around value for his case.

Shroud tension should vary between 10% and 20% of wire or cable breaking load. and stay between 15% and 30%.

Also the tension settings should vary with the prevailing wind strenghts the boat normally sails in. 10% shroud tension would be better as far as performance is concerned for a boat sailing in moderate winds, 20% should be better for racers and or for boats sailing in heavier winds, where less flexibility is desired.

In your case, and since I know Malta very well, and you want to race, 20% should be the right setting, and 25% for the stay.
 
#8 ·
Disclaimers don't mean squat anymore (who's smart enough to understand them?), you'll probably be in the middle of a class action suit soon from all the unemployed riggers that your information put out of business:eek:.

Thanks Alex, timely info., I should be stepping the mast within a month and I'll have this printed out and with me when I do.

John
 
#40 ·
Disclaimers don't mean squat anymore (who's smart enough to understand them?), you'll probably be in the middle of a class action suit soon from all the unemployed riggers that your information put out of business:eek:.

Thanks Alex, timely info., I should be stepping the mast within a month and I'll have this printed out and with me when I do.

John
John, I don't think too many riggers will be put out of business or even resent the fact that there is good info available. :)

I posted the following awhile ago. While not nearly as in depth or comprehensive as Alex's perhaps it has it's place.

The first part speaks to inspections while the rest addresses tuning.

"While not intending to dismiss anyone's advice, I am going to try to simplify this whole process.
Cracked swages are really not too difficult to find. Clean the surface of the fitting with a scotch-brite (it helps if you spit on it before scrubbing), then take your magnifying glass and look very carefully over the whole thing. Don't neglect to inspect the clevis and cotter pins/rings.
I've even seen a fairly young marine eye with absolutely no swage cracks split above the clevis pin.
If you have swage cracks they will be visible, if not obvious.
If your rigging is more than ten years old and it has been in central Florida for all that time then you are likely to find a crack or two.
If you find a small crack in your starboard upper and you have reason to believe the rigging is all of the same vintage then you will probably find some more upon closer inspection.
If you only have one week off from work, (and it's next week), and you have been planning this trip to Honeymoon Island for months and you have sense enough to reef early, stay at anchor or motor if you think you are stressing the rig, then you can almost assuredly enjoy a nice vacation and then rerig when convienent. Certainly before you decide to do the thursday night beer can race at the yacht club.
I've seen, and continue to see neglected and poorly designed rigging stand up to amazing abuse.
That said, you never want to push it. If you have time to rerig before your trip, then do it. If you can't, then take it easy, be smart and have a nice trip.

Most rigging, made by a professional will be consistant. Meaning that your starboard upper shroud will be almost exactly the same length as the port upper. (+or- 1/8" to 1/4"). So, if your mast is standing, then adjust your upper shroud turnbuckes exactly the same by opening them to the same point while your mast is being held by the lowers,headstay and backstay (you may even want to open the turnbuckles up completely and make sure the stud and t-bolt, ie top and bottom are started evenly).
Then while tightening, count the turns and take up the exact same count on each side until hand tight. Now ease off the lowers one at a time and set them all hand tight.
Next ease and set to hand tight the backstay and headstay, (if ajustable or accessable depending on furling systems). Now stop and sight up the main sail track like a gunbarrel. You will be able to see any curve (side to side) or bow (Fore and Aft) right away.
If the mast is curving to starboard and bowing forward, then start to adjust it out by tightening the starboard forward lower and backstay. It's all pretty logical if you just remember that you want to keep the top of the mast in the middle of the boat. So move the middle of the mast.
I realize that one must assume that the last rigger made the rigging correctly.
That the builder put the hole or the mast step in the middle of the deck and the chainplates are the same length and in the same positions, but what the hell, you have to make some assumptions in life.
It's really pretty easy to see if a rig has been piece-mealed and as for the rest a tape measure will answer most questions if you are really worried.
Anyway, back to the tuning.
Now that you have the mast in column, It's time to go for tentioning. If you have a gauge the use it. Set the shouds at the same tension, somewhere around the middle of the scale.

The most important part is to do the same thing on each side. If you turn the starboard upper three full turns then turn the port upper the same. Port aft lower two turns, Stb aft lower two turns etc.

If you don't have a gauge then just feel them. Don't try to make them sound like a guitar string but just get them tight. Tighten the uppers more than the intermediates and the intermediates more than the lowers. This assumes that the uppers are of an equal or larger diameter that the intermediates and the intermediates are of an equal or larger diameter than the lowers.

I have never seen a mast bowed forward on purpose. Lots of masts bow aft, some even are designed that way. Unless you have a in-mast main furler you probably won't have to worry about a little aft bow.
As far a rake (how much the mast leans aft from vertical), that can also usually be determined by the adjustment of the turnbuckles, Furlers and backstay adjusters.
If you have turnbuckles on both the HS and BS then go for about 50% adjustment on both. Adjust that later depending on weather-helm or lee helm.
After you have successfully tightened all the shrouds and stays to a reasonable degree, the mast is in column side to side and you have the desired amount of bow then go sailing. In a moderate breeze, sailing a close reach your mast should still be in column and there should be no shrouds swinging in the breeze. Meaning that even the looward shrouds should still be under some, if smaller load. If not then adjust the loose shouds, counting the turns, come about and do the same thing on the other side.
Again, the same turns on each side. Keep it in column.

If your headstay deflects too much and you can't sail too well to winward then tighten up the headtstay or backstay depending on weather/lee helm (you might want to ask a knowledgeable friend or racer to go sailing with you for this)
After returning to the dock, eyeball up the mast again. If necessary, make whatever minor adjustments to make sure the mast is in column then install all the cotter rings/pins.
Congratulation,you're done
I have not made it a practice to go sailing on the boats that I tune. Don't have the time. Most riggers don't. As a sailor, it's a skill that one needs to aquire.
Good luck and happy sailing"
 
#10 ·
Again; nice writup Giulietta. I was wondering about the difference between rake and pre-bend. When you measure pre-bend is that in addition to the rake? So first you measure the rake and then you put additional pre-bend on the mast?

I also have a question regarding the wedging at the cabin roof for a keel stepped mast. "Spartite" was installed at the partners so I can't remove and replace wedges. Can I add rake and bend with the Spartite in place or would trying to rake the mast at this point only result in bending? The mast already has a factory taper and pre-bend IIRC; it's a tall rig, the I is 52'. Visually I don't see much rake; but there is bend above the upper spreaders.
 
#11 ·
Again; nice writup Giulietta. I was wondering about the difference between rake and pre-bend. When you measure pre-bend is that in addition to the rake? So first you measure the rake and then you put additional pre-bend on the mast?

I also have a question regarding the wedging at the cabin roof for a keel stepped mast. "Spartite" was installed at the partners so I can't remove and replace wedges. Can I add rake and bend with the Spartite in place or would trying to rake the mast at this point only result in bending? The mast already has a factory taper and pre-bend IIRC; it's a tall rig, the I is 52'. Visually I don't see much rake; but there is bend above the upper spreaders.
Look here:

Image


KH..the bend is mesasured by bringing the halyard you used to set the rake to near the mast foot, so you can measure it, by measuring the distance between the halyard and the mast, and this is obviously independent of the rake, since the halyard starts at the mast head and comes to the mast foot, and that happens even if the mast is lying down on the floor.

technically, the bend should be there independent of the rake, that is why you set the rake first and the bend after. Now the bend can be increased at a later stage by the backstay, if you have one.

As far as the mast thru deck seal..obviously it would be better if it was not there, as the thru deck is creating a "pivoting point" in the mast, thus affecting the ability to properly set rake and bend.

But if you can't remove it, "he that doesn't have a dog, can hunt with a cat", as we say in my country.

The rake can to some extent still be set but I doubt you can get better than 3 deg rake, as it will start bending, yes.. Give it a try..

If you knew how many people I know that complain about boats with excessive or lack of weatherhelm that are sailing boats with wrong rake, you would be surprized....

The tapper is to reduce weight aloft, make the top more flexible and make the mast loom good, and less "tree stump" on the top... the bend is done once on the boat, not at the factory..they ship them straight as a whistle..
 
#12 ·
guilietta said:
The rule is simple each 1mm of stretch means 5% of the breaking load, and that is valid for ANY CABLE IN A SHROUD, no matter what the diameter is!!!


Careful... I did some basic calcs on this and yes; for an equivalent diameter and equivalent length the linear stretch is roughly proportional to tensile stress regardless of diameter. BUT if the smaller diameter shroud is smaller in length (which it should be) then the amount of pre-load you apply per mm of stretch is increased. That's because strain = change in length / original length.

Example:

Let's say you have a 50' mast with 7/16 upper shrouds. The calculations I did suggest that you would need 5.98 mm of stretch applied to them to get ~1600 lbs of pre-load.

In the same example; if the shrouds were 1/4" you would also need to stretch them 5.98mm to achieve 540 lbs of pre-load.

But; if you have a shorter mast (as you should) with 1/4" wire the stretch required to get 540lbs of pre-load will be less. If the mast is 30' tall the stretch required will be 3.6mm to get the same 540 lbs of pre-load. If it were tightened to 5.98mm it would have roughly 900 lbs of pre-load or 25% of break load.

So; while the rule-of-thumb is probably OK for a rough tune I would say that if you apply it to taller rigs it will result in shroud tensions that are on the loose side; and on shorter rigs it will result in shroud tensions that are a bit too tight. :)


Thanks for the additional info on rake VS bend. I understand it now; and now I'm not sure if the mast actually has rake or not. I'll do some measuring and adjusting according to your excellent procedures.
 
#19 ·
KH..I don't know how you did your calculations, but I confess you are puzzling and confusing me a lot...

where did you get the numbers and are you sure about the values you are using for breaking loads?

Normally 7/16 cable which is around 11mm has a BL of 27.815 lbs, roughly (as my tables are metric)..and a stretch of 5.98mm as you suggest is 30% not 6%, as that is the stretch for the 1600lbs you are refering to.

a 1/4 cable that has a BL of 7054 lbs roughly, at 900lbs it is at 13%...
 
#14 ·
Giu,

Sorry for getting your name wrong. This thread simply has to much info for me to appreciate all of it at one go.

I guess I was not clear enough when I asked for clarifications on the various terms. I have tried to upload a picture of the rig to clarify but for some reason Sailnet is not accepting the file.

So I will try with words.

The rig I am interested in has a twin spreader rig consisting of a wire A starting from the deck to the tip of the first spreader then to the tip of the second spreader and then on to the mast.

It also has a wire B starting from the same place as A going up at an angle to the mast at the lower spreader height.

There is a second wire C going up at an angle from the outer tip of the lower spreader to the mast at the height of the upper spreader.

I guess my question is: what are the names of wires A,B,C?

regards
 
#15 ·
Giulietta

Thank you for your hard work and effort. You saved me from starting a thread about how to check and adjust my rig's tension. The various stays are all over the place tension wise and I planned to re-tension around launch.

All these good deeds you do for us will hopefully earn you a nice bunch of beam reaches this season.

Thank you very much.

LH
 
#17 ·
xuraax,

Using Alex's examples under rig tension, 1) shroud tension,

A would be upper shroud,
B lower shroud
C intermediate shroud.

Alex,

Thank you for info, this is tomorrows list to do before saturdays race, or sunday if not time if found tomorrow friday. Got a loose guage the other day too!:):):):)

Marty
 
#20 ·
From the web, Young's Modulus for 1x19 wire rope is 107.5 kN/mm^2.

Using the table of breaking loads for different diameters of AISI-316 wire rope as given in the book "Principles of Yacht Design" I got the following table for wire stretch for a 2000mm wire loaded to 5% of breaking load:

diameter(mm)____breaking strength(kN)___delta L(mm)

3_______________7.7__________________1.01
4______________13.8__________________1.02
5______________21.6__________________1.02
6______________30.o__________________0.99
7______________40.9__________________0.99
8______________53.5__________________0.99
10_____________69.1__________________0.82
11_____________83.5__________________0.82
12____________120.2__________________0.99
14____________160.1__________________0.97

This practically confirms what Alex is saying.

regards
 
#22 ·
Right; I said the same thing. If the shroud length is constant; the amount of stretch required is the same. But you can't apply this universally to all shrouds because different boats have different lengths of rigging wire. If you plug in 4000 mm for your base length; the delta L will double to get the proper tension. Since that's true you can't use the 1mm/5% rule to get exact tension. If I tighten an intermediate 1/4" shroud using that rule the tension will likely be ~40-50% of breaking load because the shroud lenth is much shorter than the upper shroud; which goes from the masthead to the deck.

Giu-

I'll get back to you with the data; I am aboard my boat tonight using a different computer. I should still have the spreadsheat I was doing the calc's on; but if not I will make up a new one. I was just using the modulus for 316 stainless and an approximate breaking strength for each size. Please don't use those numbers I posted as "actual"; I was only trying to make the point that stretch is also dependent on wire length (and this is independent of the max strength of each wire diameter).
 
#30 · (Edited)
OK; here is the way to solve for stretch at 15% breaking strength. It's a simple derivation; it really only uses two well known engineering equations to solve it.

Strain is defined using the greek symbol epsillon; I'm using E

Strain is defined as:

E = dL / Lo

Change in length is dL; Lo is the Original Length.

For elastic conditions; we can use the definition of Young's Modulus to determine how much extension (strain) exists in a length of wire for a given amount of force applied.

Young's Modulus - E = Applied Stress / Strain = S/E = S/(dL/Lo)

Young's Modulus is a material specific constant measured by a testing applied force vs extension.

For type 316 Stainless; E = 28,000 kPSI

We can solve this for the change in length; dL

dL = Lo * (S/E)

The only real "variable" in this equation is Lo. For all wire diameters we want the same amount of stress (15% of breaking) so we can say that S is a constant.

Let's calculate S for some different wire diameters to prove it's relatively constant:

S = (F/Ao) - "F" is the tension force in the wire; Ao is the original cross sectional area of the wire.

(Breaking strengths taken from loosco.com for 1x19 type 316 wire)

For 7/16 wire - S = 15% * (20,000#)/(Pi * (7/32")^2) = 15% * 133,040 PSI = 19,956 PSI

For 1/4" wire - S = 15% * (6900#)/(Pi * (1/8")^2) = 15% * 140,560 PSI = 21,084 PSI (within 5%)

For 5/16 wire - S = 15% * (10,600#)/(Pi * (5/32")^2) = 15% * 138,200 PSI = 20,730 PSI (within 4%)

Using Young's Modulus for type 316; the 15% breaking load equation becomes:

dL = Lo * (20,600 PSI) / (28,000 kPSI) = Lo * .000736.

Use inches or mm for the shroud length; multiply by .000736 and get the length you need to stretch the cable.

For a shroud 55' long: dL = 660" * .000736 = 0.485"

For a shroud 20' long: dL = 240" * .000736 = 0.177"

It's -fairly- independent of wire diameter; but clearly dependent on length! You could use this for type 316; (but of course the standard disclaimer applies); and it does not take into account deflection of the rig or hull when you tighten the shrouds. Again; you should use an appropriate tension gauge to determine the actual rig tension.
 
#32 ·
For type 316 Stainless; E = 28,000 kPSI
Keel,

When I convert your number to metric I come up with 193KN/mm^2 which is a lot higher than the one I quoted (107.5). When I looked up E again on the web the numbers I come up with now are closer to the ones you give so I guess it is more proper to use the constant you gave. The equation for Delta L is of course the same (Phewww!! thank goodness for that)

For 7/16 wire - S = 15% * (20,000#)/(Pi * (7/32")^2) = 15% * 133,040 PSI = 19,956 PSI
I note that American's frequently use the # sign. Can you explain what it means?

Use inches or mm for the shroud length; multiply by .000736 and get the length you need to stretch the cable.

For a shroud 55' long: dL = 660" * .000736 = 0.485"

For a shroud 20' long: dL = 240" * .000736 = 0.177"

It's -fairly- independent of wire diameter; but clearly dependent on length! You could use this for type 316; (but of course the standard disclaimer applies); and it does not take into account deflection of the rig or hull when you tighten the shrouds. Again; you should use an appropriate tension gauge to determine the actual rig tension.
I can understand the apparatus needed to measure an extension of a few mm over a length of 2 m.

What would you use to measure the 0.485" (say) in the 55' shroud to ensure that you don't tension it more than 15% of breaking strength?

regards