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Comparing trailer sailers.

2.8K views 6 replies 6 participants last post by  dadio917  
#1 ·
I'm on the hunt for a trailerable boat. One I can keep on my inland lake dock with 2' of water. But also sail on larger inland lakes and weather permitting Lake Superior. Boats I am considering are 16 to 20 feet with retractable keels with trailers. Com Pac, Montgomery, and Seaward Fox (wing keel) are likely contestants. However there is another boat that is attracting my interest with one for sale near (300 miles) me. A Herreshoff America.
I used to race Class C scows that are 20' cat rigged boats so I have experience with that rig but always sailed in close to perfect conditions where reducing sail was never an issue. So advice from you experienced people on the advantage or disadvantage of a gaff cat boat is appreciated.
I intend to do some overnighting on the boat and will be solo sailing nearly all the time. Trailering the boat to lakes in northern Minnesota and also to Lake Michigan and Superior.
 
#3 ·
I have been trailer sailing a 21 ft gaff head cat on 8n land lakes as well as lake Ontario for quite a few years and I think it's a good rig for trailer sailing.

Lots of lines to deal with but the mast tabernacle sure is nice for solo mast stepping.

My boat sails well and I think a Hershoff America probably would too.

If trailering frequently, it's a great rig.
 
#4 ·
The question you need to answer for yourself is how important is the "easy trailering"? And the trade-offs from sailing ability for trailerability?

Mast raising and how high the boat sits above the ground have a lot to do with how easy a boat is to trailer. I've always had trailerable sailboats, ranging from Sunfish/Laser to an ODay 25 to my current ODay (Stuart) Mariner (19ft). In some ways, the Mariner is the best at trailerability, in some ways it still is not great. The Sunfish and Laser are fun single handers, and trailer easy - but are difficult to launch/retrieve, rig and unrig without somebody else around to help. They also require a pretty agile person to sail in any kind of variable winds (typical on lakes).

My Mariner is pretty easy to single hand in my old age due to stability - you don't have to be on and off the rail all the time. The board fully retracts into the hull so is easy to launch in shallow water and only draws 10" board up. BUT it will skid sideways with the wind without at least 6" of cb down. The other issue for single handing is figuring out ways not to have to go up on the foredeck. On the Mariner, the mast can be easily reached from the cabin with the hatch open - which makes halyards pretty easy to reach. Jib sheets go to the aft edge of the coach roof on swivel cam cleats to easily manage from cockpit. No winches needed for standard jib. Mid boom mainsheet goes to centerboard trunk with no traveler to trip over. So a vang, tiller extension, and a tiller clutch are really the only non-standard tools needed for single handing. Mariner mast raising takes rigging a gin pole and some side-to-side stabilization as the mast goes up and down (I use rope baby stays), which adds time at the ramp. But mast raising is very simple and quick if there are 2 people instead of one.

I use the Mariner as an example of things to be considered for single handing, solo rigging, and solo launching/retrieving. My Mariner is not a quick launch if I'm single handed - I would not use it for solo trailered daysailing. But the 10" draft with fully retractable CB (and kick-up rudder) makes it fun to beach. The 3/4 sloop rig makes it a good and fun sailor. With an easily reefed main, I can enjoy 5-20 knots of wind. A local Sun Cat struggles at either end of the Mariner wind range, yet still has a 6" keel/CB stub that makes beaching awkward. But rigging/derigging is much faster.

Matching the trailer to the boat is important on a boat like the Mariner without a keel stub. If the trailer has the wheels outside the hull (mine does), the boat can sit low between the wheels, making for easy launching at shallow ramps, and built-in ladder if the wheel fenders are sturdy enough.

Think carefully about how you will actually use the boat - the trade-offs become more significant in the smaller boats.

Fred W
Stuart Mariner 19 #4133 Sweet P
Yeopim Creek, Albemarle Sound, NC
 
#5 ·
I think that there are a lot of trailerable sailboats that would work for you. Check out all those that you can find within a distance that suits you and pick the best one. I doesn't matter much what others think might be the best one if it's not available. If you have a good towing vehicle and are willing to drive a long way. You would probably have more to chose from. My only suggestion is to pick one that you really like (a lot!). Boats can become a big burden and not seem to be worth it if you don't just love it regardless of all the hassle.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Fred's comments about the Hereshoff America not sitting low in the teailer are right.

The rig itself should be easy to manage, but with the keel and the weight, the boat will not be easy to load onto the trailer especially in any wind.

Comparison pics for how much lower my boat sits in its trailer.

Hereshoff America
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My Bay Hen (21 ft) on the bottom.

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#7 ·
Check out a Corsair 27 foldable tri. I bought one three years ago and it's been fantastic. Fast (I mean fast!) and fun to sail, reasonably comfortable to camp on, and best of all I can rig it myself! The design to raise the mast without a gin pole is remarkable. I little hard to find and a bit spendy but they seem to hold value very well. Will float in under 2' or water. I love the thing!