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engine oil leaking out of air intake

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#1 ·
does anyone else have this problem?: I have an older 65hp ford lehman that was rebuilt totally last year. it has two air intakes on the side of the engine and has two thin round air filters wrapped in thin foam around the metal frame of the intake. the bottom drips oil, engine oil. its soaked but I don't see the physical dripping of oil except its in my bilge water. maybe because its side mounted that this is the problem.
 
#2 ·
Do you have hoses running from the valve cover to the filter cannisters? They usually come from a PCV valve and the intention is that the engine aspirates any oil vapours from the crankcase.

In some cases an excess of oil will travel this path and be evidenced by what you're seeing. However that's usually on older engines that are suffering from "blowby" that tends to pressurize the crankcase and force more oil out those hoses. With a freshly rebuilt engine (assuming a proper job) that shouldn't be happening.
 
#7 ·
No you shouldn't block them off... they are how the gradual buildup of gases and pressure in the crankcase are relieved. The idea is the suction from the air intake puts the vapours back through the combustion side of the engine.

Blocking them off will eventually allow that pressure to build, resulting in leaking seals, oil coming out the dipstick tube and any other way it might find.. making a mess of the engine space..

Here's an interesting discussion on Wikipedia: (I doubt these engines have an actual 'PCV valve)

PCV valve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There's mention here of an "oil trap" that might be installed between the valve cover and the connection to the breather. Food for thought....
 
#8 ·
There's mention here of an "oil trap" that might be installed between the valve cover and the connection to the breather. Food for thought....
A fellow over on the C-34 owners website shows pictures of a home made trap he made. IIRC, it was basically a canister made out of a couple of cans with hose fittings at either end with foam rubber in the middle.
 
#11 ·
Aside from the uncomfortable idea of putting warm combustible vapours into the fuel tank, a lengthy line to the fuel tank, and to a normally vented tank may not evacuate enough fumes.. The crankcase ventilation relies on the considerable suction of the air intake of the engine.
 
#12 · (Edited)
I don't see any problem with any of before mentioned.
Modern trucks and diesel cars and expensive boats actually heat the fuel and recirculate it through the tanks, they all run hot fuel. I don't see any problem with fumes in the tanks, besides fumes are blowby exhaust gases. I also don't think that the suction plays any role - crank case is pressurized by blowby.
On trucks it is just vented outside.
The only problem I see is that exhaust gases can contaminate the fuel, technically speaking it is hard particles suspended in air....
But, anyway, they suck it into engine and mix it with fuel there, so it shouldn't do any damage to fuel.
 
#14 ·
.....I also don't think that the suction plays any role - crank case is pressurized by blowby....
The entire purpose of plumbing the crankcase vent into the intake is to PREVENT crankcase pressurization. Shaft seals, dipstick tubes, etc are not designed to withstand internal pressure. Yes, on a truck these vents are external, but on a boat expelling those fumes into the engine space just won't do. If you try to go to the fuel tank you'll pressurize the lot to no good effect.

The fuel tank is vented to the outside. If you vent pressurized crankcase gases to the fuel tank, you're blowing hydrocarbon molecules out the fuel tank vent. At least with the crankcase venting into the air intake on the motor, it's going back through the combustion process and coming out the other end co2 and h2o.
... not to mention the mess that would make on the hull at the vent...
 
#13 ·
The fuel tank is vented to the outside. If you vent pressurized crankcase gases to the fuel tank, you're blowing hydrocarbon molecules out the fuel tank vent. At least with the crankcase venting into the air intake on the motor, it's going back through the combustion process and coming out the other end co2 and h2o.