[evangeline44]

Re: Frers F&C 44

Good Evening Klaus
From your last post, do I infer that some previous boats had been built in Wood? That's news to me, you obviously have greater knowledge of the marque. Do you know what 'K' number the boat you mentioned has?
Do you think that it would be a good idea to set up a small stand- alone website for all F&C 44 owners? I certainly do.
It would be nice to have a map with pins to show how widespread our beloved boats are, And what a forum to share our joint knowledge on!

We were at one time in touch with Thomas in Texas via email but lost all data regarding this .
you can contact us directly on neilcotton2011@hotmail.co.uk
any other owners still watching this thread please feel free to contact. But no time wasters please as we have a re-fit going on!
Regards
N&S

 

[miatapaul]

Re: Frers F&C 44

Reading your post, I realized having exactly the same problem that you discribed. The chain plates on my F&C44 hull K16 are rotten.
The craftsmen on the yard are puzzled about the whole construction. Having only two of these boats in Gemany means the yards have no experience in this kind of reconstruction. So I would be glad if you could give me information about the
step by step progress of the repair. Especially photographs from imside/outside that show the approach and complexity would be very
helpful.
I thank you in advance for assistance
Regards
Klaus
kholthoefer@t-online.de

Hi Klaus,
Evangeline is K11 so about the oldest I've come across on various Fora. Do you know of any earlier ones?
She was launched in August 1979. So like yours she has the chainplates bonded into the hull - a serious design flaw.

Regards
N&S

Not sure why the yard is puzzled by this construction method, it is quite common. Island Packet still uses it to this day. Irwin and lots of others in the 70's used it. They theory is that it makes the hull to chainplate attachment as strong as the hull, but in reality it is a cost savings measure, and does promote corrosion of the stainless steel. If I replaced with titanium chain plates (now not that much more than quality Stainless) I would consider just bonding them in again as you would not worry about oxygen deprived corrosion. But bets practice is to design some sort of attachment method that is not embedded, like installing knees. But you will want to run it by a navel architect. Exterior is a possibility as well.

 

[CEC45]

Re: Frers F&C 44

Hello everyone. I have owned # 44 TARITA. Chainplates work has been successfully carried out under German Frers (h) supervision at the Yacht Club Argentino, at F & C44 Samarkanda. At this moment a new teka is being installed on the whole deck.

Greetings from Argentina.
Carlos Enrique Canay Bao

 

[bennettyachting]

Re: Frers F&C 44

Hi there F&C 44 owners. Does anyone have knowledge of the boat for sale in Maramis Turkey? She is in rough shape, needs to have the teak deck removed, and a bunch of other repairs. I am a boatbuilder and looking to restore and go Blue water to NZL. Gathering info from the broker now but would love to hear from any of you about your experiences.

Kind regards. Brian Bennett

 

[CEC45]

Re: Frers F&C 44

I was checking for the ship in Marmaris and I was informed that I would have to remove the teak and make it again, or with another wood. There are some 44 who have taken the medera but for me the boat is no longer the traditional one. It is true that it is a very expensive job.
When the teka is not given due care, the leaks begin and that is where the problem of the chain plates comes up. ALWAYS around the same ones you have to remove sealing products and redo the work. Saludos. Carlos

 

[thedude101]

Re: Frers F&C 44

Hi there F&C 44 owners. Does anyone have knowledge of the boat for sale in Maramis Turkey? She is in rough shape, needs to have the teak deck removed, and a bunch of other repairs. I am a boatbuilder and looking to restore and go Blue water to NZL. Gathering info from the broker now but would love to hear from any of you about your experiences.

Kind regards. Brian Bennett

Met the owner & family(west Londoners) about 3 years ago in Turkey when he was on route to Marmaris,
he must be ill or died because he was well into this boat and talked to me about how he bought her in S.America and sailed her across Atlantic with his family. They were finished Cruising & he asked me if i knew a broker i advised peter in Marmaris.She is currently at yacht marina uncovered leaking water through decks that have penetrated wood panelling and made stains.
I don't know if she will go through another rainy Marmaris winter/spring well.
the asking price has been reduced to £35k but with leaky deck work,chain plates, interior woodwork etc its not looking a viable project.

 

[guggech]

Re: Frers F&C 44

Hi Jim,
I read your post on Sailnet about chain plates replacement on the F&C44 I am considering purchasing a F&C 44 that need chain plate replacement. What is the cost involved? I am pretty good at fiberglassing and wondering how much work is involved.
Thanks,
Charles Guggenheim
831-238-5393

 

[SVCHARDONNAY]

I have been tasked with moving a F&C 44; beautiful boat but the drive train isn't working. Engine starts, I can feel her going in gear, but the hydraulic pump (oil level full) isn't doing anything (motor isn't turning shaft). Does anyone have documentation on this drive train we can start with? We're doing "blind" troubleshooting right now. Thanks in advance, scott@chardonnayboatworks.com

 

[Smith71]

F&c 44

Hallo James,
if I am correct, your question about F&C 44 is very old and still without answer. I joint the sailnet community yesterday and found your post.
If your still interested in Information concerning this wonderfull boat,
please send me a new post. I am owner of Hull-Nr. K-16 since 1990.
Regards, K. Holthoefer

Hello - I Thea Hull-Nr 57 - I’d like to know more of the F&C 44 Atlantic crossings and other long distance voyages if there’s anyone out there that has the stories?

 

[Evelyn L]

I have been tasked with moving a F&C 44; beautiful boat but the drive train isn't working. Engine starts, I can feel her going in gear, but the hydraulic pump (oil level full) isn't doing anything (motor isn't turning shaft). Does anyone have documentation on this drive train we can start with? We're doing "blind" troubleshooting right now. Thanks in advance, scott@chardonnayboatworks.com

Hello... F&C 44' Owner in Jacksonville, FL-- preparing for Pacific crossing in near future... We have a MeWe group for boat owners... Scott-- I'd like to know how you resolved this pump issue. Sounds like the shift controller might be worn out from the sounds of it-- as I had issues with mine once upon a time....

Cheers,

Skipper T
Hull#
K-22

 

[SV/Tangaroa]

Hello everyon, My name is Alain and I recently bought F&C44 Hull K-60, apparently the last one… built in 1990. Previously under the name of KIKITU, in Brazil. Does anyone have infos about previous owners? My k-60 seems very diferent as other… double spreaders mast, fixed Scheel keel shallow dratt of 1.75m - 5,9ft… also looking for the sail plan…

 

[Evelyn L]

Hello everyon, My name is Alain and I recently bought F&C44 Hull K-60, apparently the last one… built in 1990. Previously under the name of KIKITU, in Brazil. Does anyone have infos about previous owners? My k-60 seems very diferent as other… double spreaders mast, fixed Scheel keel shallow dratt of 1.75m - 5,9ft… also looking for the sail plan…

Hello there.... 'Skipper T' here in Florida.... They made a few fixed keels for racing... We call them F&C Sloops... As mentioned above there is a MeWe Group for F&C 44' sailboats... There are just a small handful of us left that are still using the boats and sailing them... They are one of the last true blue water boats out there...

As far as double spreaders--- -yeah that is normal for the single masted sloop... The Ketch rigged ones have a smaller split-rig sail plan that is balanced with the mizzen mast. It makes for a super stable ride in rough seas... I can vouch for this!!

Post a few Photos of your boat here or on the group MeWe group if you like?

Cheers,

Skipper T

 

[SV/Tangaroa]

Hello there.... 'Skipper T' here in Florida.... They made a few fixed keels for racing... We call them F&C Sloops... As mentioned above there is a MeWe Group for F&C 44' sailboats... There are just a small handful of us left that are still using the boats and sailing them... They are one of the last true blue water boats out there...

As far as double spreaders--- -yeah that is normal for the single masted sloop... The Ketch rigged ones have a smaller split-rig sail plan that is balanced with the mizzen mast. It makes for a super stable ride in rough seas... I can vouch for this!!

Post a few Photos of your boat here or on the group MeWe group if you like?

Cheers,

Skipper T

My K-60 is à Ketch

 

[SV/Tangaroa]

My K-60 is à Ketch

What is MeWe?

 

[Daniel S M]

Hello everyon, My name is Alain and I recently bought F&C44 Hull K-60, apparently the last one… built in 1990. Previously under the name of KIKITU, in Brazil. Does anyone have infos about previous owners? My k-60 seems very diferent as other… double spreaders mast, fixed Scheel keel shallow dratt of 1.75m - 5,9ft… also looking for the sail plan…

Hi Alain, did you buy the K-60 in France, in the Bouches-du-Rhône? There was an F&C44 for sale with a Brazilian flag.

Thank you so much

 

[Merlinfrers44]

Re: Frers F&C 44

We must be mad!!
Just brought Evangeline K11 total rebuild coming up!

Does anyone know accurately how many were built in total?
How many owners on this site?

Do you still own this boat? I am the admin for a fb group and trying to gather all the F&C44 owners, group called F&C 44 Owners join us!