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Unfettered Use of my Hans Christian for 6 months...

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5.8K views 16 replies 15 participants last post by  aloof  
#1 ·
How would you like to have exclusive use of a 38’ Hans Christian Traditional sailboat for 6 months or so? For the right person(s), this could be a fantastic opportunity!

The Situation:

I have lived aboard Candide for 18 years, and she’s currently docked in downtown Washington, D.C. Unfortunately, I recently had to return to Jacksonville, Florida, to care for an elderly parent. I had to resign from my job as I can no longer meet its extensive travel requirements.
I need to have the boat relocated from Washington, D.C., to Jacksonville, Florida. With my mother’s medical situation, I do not have the freedom to move the boat myself. I could hire crew to move her for me, of course, but I’m hoping to find a cheaper alternative.

I’m looking for an individual or couple with sailing experience who would like to enjoy the vessel for six months or so…exploring the Chesapeake and Eastern Seaboard on a legendary, world-class, blue-water sailboat. In exchange for unfettered use of Candide, the only requirement is to deliver her safely to Jacksonville, Florida, at some point in 2015.

The Boat:

You can read about Candide at Sleeping With Oars! | Living Aboard a Sailboat (do a Google search).

The boat is very well equipped with:

Cutter rigging (one mast; jib, stay, and main sails)
39-HP Yanmar diesel
Hydraulic ram autopilot
100 gallon water capacity
90 gallon fuel capacity (diesel)
6 gallon hot water capacity
5 bilge pumps (three installed, two backups)
EPIRB satellite emergency transponder
Digital Windspeed / Direction indicator
Depth Sounder
GPS / Color Chartplotter
CQR and Plow anchors
Electric anchor windless
RIB dinghy with 8 HP outboard
Extensive tools for virtually every type of engine, mechanical, or electrical repair.

And she's comfortable to live on with the following amenities:

Hot and cold running water
5.5 kw diesel generator
Ice maker (33 lbs./day)
Gas oven with 3-burner range
Gas BBQ grill
22,000 BTU air conditioner / heater
2 private sleeping quarters
1 head with shower and toilet
Refrigerator and freezer
2 full-size, folding bicycles
2000 Watt inverter
12V, 645 Amp Hour house bank batteries

What I’m asking of you:

Commit to delivering the boat to Jacksonville, Florida, by a mutually agreeable date (I’m extremely flexible on the date).

Already have significant sailing experience. If you want to take the boat offshore, you’ll need to have offshore experience.

Have BoatUS / SeaTow service.

Pay for fuel and any docking you may wish to do.

Provide three references who can attest to your boating experience.

Be able to perform basic mechanical and electrical repairs that may arise on the voyage.

Agree to a weekly check-in with me via phone or e-mail.

Not have any illegal drugs on the boat at any time.

Operate the vessel in compliance with all applicable laws and good seamanship practices.

Sign a contract that describes our agreement.

What you can expect of me:

I will meet you in Washington, D.C., several days before your departure. We’ll go over every inch of Candide until you’re comfortable with her operations and quarks (yes, as with every boat, she has a few).
We’ll take the boat out for a couple of days in the Potomac. We’ll sail, anchor, motor, spend a night or two together on board away from shore. Basically, we’ll take a “shakedown” mini-cruise.

I’ll be available via phone at any time to troubleshoot any problems that may arise during the voyage.

Bottom Line:

You may be thinking, “Hey! This guy just wants to find someone who will move his boat for free!” That’s very perceptive of you; you’re exactly right! My personal situation has changed, money and time are tight for me, and I’m looking for a free delivery.

My goal is to find a trustworthy, experienced person or couple who would appreciate the unfettered use of Candide for several months and will agree to deliver her to Jacksonville, Florida, at some point in 2015.

If you’re interested in this opportunity, please send me an e-mail at Robert *at* SleepingWithOars.com describing the reasons for your interest, your contact information, and anything else you care to divulge.

Sincerely,
-Robert Doty
 
#2 ·
Wow what a great offer.

Just a year or too early for me I'm afraid.
 
#3 ·
Hi, David!

Sorry to hear that the offer is too early for you. If you happen to know of anyone who might be interested, please pass the word along.

Also, I'm open to alternatives. For example, the boat is in Washington, D.C. on the Potomac, 1 mile from the Washington Monument. If someone wanted to "take care" of the boat for a couple of years...meaning that they would pay slip fees, insurance, regular maintenance, etc., I'd seriously consider letting them have exclusive, full-use of the vessel during that time. In fact, I'd be willing to relocate the boat to a different location for a period of time if an agreement can be reached. Maybe someone in Baltimore would like to have use of a Hans Christian for a year or two?

I dunno. I'm somewhat in a bind. The boat is WAY too much a part of my life to sell her...that's not an option at this point. But, I'm in a position for a while where I've got to live off savings and simply can't find a window that's long enough to relocate her back to Jacksonville myself.

It would be a HUGE help financially to get the boat off my hands for a while as far as slip fees, maintenance, and insurance (the mortgage was paid off a few years ago). Any thoughts from you (or anyone!) would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

-Robert Doty
 
#5 ·
Just want to say, I really enjoyed reading your website several years ago. Your story was one of my inspirations to get back into sailing after many years. I wish I was still in the DC area to take you up on your offer - best of luck.
 
#8 ·
Be sure both parties are also abundantly clear on who pays for the guaranteed repairs necessary along the way.

Also, insurance will be tricky. The crew will need to listed as authorized crew to keep the owners insurance in effect. However, if the crew are not additional insured parties on the policy, the insurance company will come after then to collect any losses incurred, while they were controlling the boat.

All can be worked out, good luck.
 
#9 ·
This sounds very interesting to us. I live in DC and my wife and I have been sailing the Chesapeake for 30 years. We both have 6-pac Coast Guard licenses and I've maintained a Pearson 303 since 1990 so I know something about diesel engines and other onboard systems. We've also done some offshore cruising between the Virgin Islands and the U.S.

We should talk, but this board won't let me leave my email address for some dumb reason, so if you have another idea about how we can connect, let me know. Eric
 
#10 ·
A friend passed on your offer for the use of your boat for six months. Didn't think it was for real but decided to follow up on it. Have any offers yet?

My wife and I lived aboard a 41' CC Irwin cutter rigged ketch for six years and cruised as far south as St. Martin and north as far as Maine. Based out of Galveston.

Bob
 
#11 ·
This is the reason there are professional delivery captains.

Consider this: the engine is old and worn out, and blows up after ten days. Who pays?

Or the new captain doesn't check the oil, and the brand new engine runs out of oil after ten days and blows up. Who pays?

Why are these issues? Because no one will know which one actually happened. All anyone will see will be that the engine ran out of oil and blew up after ten days.

Take that problem, multiply it by the number of moving parts on the boat, and there's no way I'd participate in a deal like this from either side. And none of these even take into consideration things like being dismasted from being over-canvassed vs. being dismasted by a rogue wave.

Not to mention what would happen if someone actually got hurt...

Pros have contracts that spell out what will happen, as well as appropriate insurance for most events. And pros aren't some guy and his Sail Babe Of The Week you met on the internet, who will lose the boom, then run the boat ashore, jump off, hail a cab, and send you a postcard.
 
#13 ·
A) "Old" members know better than to consider this deal, or
B) "Old" members aren't posting enough.
 
#14 ·
Beautiful boat, six whole months, and I still do not have a boat. So far so good, but, I have never sailed, I am stuck for months at least in the middle of New Mexico, And this drool is ruining my keyboard.
My bet is that in the next couple of weeks the right person steps forward and all is well.
Fair skies and following winds.
 
#15 ·
Hang on in there. It is a big commitment for somebody. I sent the thread link out to a few friends, as desert rat said be patient, the right person will come along.

And as has been previously said, you will need a contract to decide who covers breakdowns/breakages/catastrophes. To protect both of you. I would have though the contract used to hire a delivery captain would be a good starting point.

As you wait for the right person, one suggested selection criterion: The right person will insist on coming to visit and inspect the boat, and complete a thorough evaluation of all systems before committing - including probably giving you a list of upgrade/repair work before they "take commend". If your "candidate" does not do this, the chances are they are not the person you want to hand the keys to.
 
#17 ·
Wow. Super offer. Wayyyy too good. I would think someone would do the delivery for just one free week, plus the week for delivery.

Given six months to break things, and wear the rest out, the offer is bad for the owner.

Scary looking for people on the internet too. Better someone you barely know from the DC marina or yacht club.