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Elan 350

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I like elan 350, however i did not understand the rational behind the placement of the mainsheet track.

What's wrong with it? It seems perfect for solo or duo racing:

A rigging set-up that is perfect for solo sailing would not be good for crew racing and vice-versa.

Some top boats can rig it for the type of racing you want to do. For instance, the A35 that is as good solo racing as crew racing....with different rigging set-ups. The same with the JPK 10.10.

Regards

Paulo

 

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Classic boats: White wings

Just look at this all girls team sailing White Wings on muscular conditions: beautiful boat, beautiful crew

 

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Vor 70

Great racing by Groupama, Telefonica and also by Abu Dhabi that is following Telefonica. It seems to me that Telefonica and Abu Dhabi, more to the North are in a better position. They all have to turn North the question would be when.

Only Camper has given up to follow Groupama lead and had already turned North. Don't think it is going to work.

Next 12 hours will be very interesting with several options, more to the South, more to the North, before going North. It has not only to do with wind pressure but also with wind direction. I hope we will see different strategies. Puma would be the one that would gain more in not follow Groupama since it as already lost 41 miles and needs to recover them.

Volvo Ocean Race 2011-2012 | Race Data Center

 

[PCP]

Incredible stuff

The tanker was being led by a pilot boat, it warned the other vessels, it's restricted by its draft, it can't carry out any manoeuvres or stop.

 

[okyalos]

Re: Elan 350

What's wrong with it? It seems perfect for solo or duo racing:

A rigging set-up that is perfect for solo sailing would not be good for crew racing and vice-versa.

Some top boats can rig it for the type of racing you want to do. For instance, the A35 that is as good solo racing as crew racing....with different rigging set-ups. The same with the JPK 10.10.

Regards

Paulo

Hi Paulo

It's a lovely boat and it seems to be fast. However, the mainsheet track is placed at the right place, but i did not figure out why it's 20 cm above deck level. I saw the tracks of salona and they are perfectly fitted at deck level. It is quite possible to stick your foot in this track. Beyond this, it's a great boat.
I have a question regarding solo or crew rigging. Does this actually exist? For instance, i saw azurre, another sexy boat which although it claims to be short handed it has runners which means another 2 crew for gybing.

 

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Re: Elan 350

Hi Paulo

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I have a question regarding solo or crew rigging. Does this actually exist? For instance, i saw azurre, another sexy boat which although it claims to be short handed it has runners which means another 2 crew for gybing.

Hi!

I am not sure I understand your question but I will try to make everything clear:

A good rigging setup for solo sailing is not for sure a good setup for crew racing. The priorities are contradictory. For crew racing you want to have all the guys working on the sails well distributed with space for working. On solo sail you want to have everything near to your hand and near the wheel or tiler.

If the question is that some brands like Archambault, JPK or Pogo can put in your boat a rigging for solo or crew racing the answer is yes. They have plenty boats that are raced solo (on the transquadra) and have helped sailors to develop systems and rigging adapted to that and have the knowledge.

Some has that knowledge from the beginning: JPK was a solo racer.

On a Salona 35 I am sure you can improve the standard rigging for solo the difference is that for them you have to say what you want because they have experience with crew racing and cruising sailors but no experience with solo racers.

To give you an example, on Archambault they developed for solo racing a thing they call the satellite. The boat was a tiller and the satellite is on the center of the boat near your feet. All lines are brought there.

Regards

Paulo

 

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New boat: Brenta Super Star.

The idea is an ambitious one: A boat to substitute on the Olympic series the old but great Star.

Well, the boat is beautiful and it is also a XXI century boat, canting keel and all.

Over the Star it has the big advantage of being a boat that can be used as a day sailor and carry passengers and off course, it will be a much faster boat, specially downwind.

Anyway it is a beautiful daysailor and I am sure it is an incredible boat to sail. It is a 33ft.

 

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Vor 70

and I was right again, they went all North and also Telefonica was in a better position than Groupama and the Spanish managed to overtake the French, that are now at 10Nm. Great race by these two boats.

Now it is Telefonica that leads the way with Groupama following. These two boats seem to me in a better position and should won miles to everybody on the next 12 hours.

They will go North for some time and then they will go East again, circling the Açores anti-cyclone. The catch here is the time they will chose to turn right: If they will go more to the North they will get more wind and speed, if they cut first, they will have a shorter way and less speed.

The right choice will say who is going to pass Açores first: Telefonica ou Groupama.

This leg have been just great

Volvo Ocean Race 2011-2012 | Race Data Center

 

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Vor 70

Obviously the weather information displayed is not correct. Telefonica and Groupama that on the weather map have the same wind pressure than the group to the west but a better wind angle are losing time.

Telefonica had done the right thing and changed course to East. If Groupama does not the same is going to be caught by Abu Dhabi and Puma. If they change course maybe they can get the wind we see ahead and go away....if the weather map is correct

If so we would have the situation I have described, Groupama and Telefonica will take the short cut and the others will be looking for more wind to the North.

Interesting

Volvo Ocean Race 2011-2012 | Race Data Center

By the way, if you on the Volvo page click on "Lisbon, visit the race village" you will be misdirectioned. You will not see the race village, at least yet, but you will see this very nice movie and because it is really a nice movie I will post it here. Have a look:

 

[LuLu.B]

Hi,

very interesting what you writes about the Comet 41 s Sottovoce. The ship was also offered me. Now, I was told that COMAR had solved the problem. The entire hull was wet, or only the anchor box area? The seller told me that it was only on the anchor chain locker. What do you think of this.

 

[PCP]

Hi,

very interesting what you writes about the Comet 41 s Sottovoce. The ship was also offered me. Now, I was told that COMAR had solved the problem. The entire hull was wet, or only the anchor box area? The seller told me that it was only on the anchor chain locker. What do you think of this.

The world is small

No, the problem started on the anchor locker and it was by that place that the water entered on the core.

That was the entry place. Obviously the water was on the hull and not only on that place. They are selling the boat cheaply and if the boat is in fact repaired could be a good deal, however I know little about how to repair a boat with water on the core.

Ask on this forum. There are some boat builders and shipyard workers and lots of experienced people around.

If I was you I would talk or ask a Pericia to Luca Marziale. He works for Commar but also independently as a Perito Navale. His link to Comar puts him on a dubious position however I have a very good impression about him. He is very competent and I would say honest too.

I asked him a Pericia on Sottovoce and it was him that detected that the boat had an humid hull. Off course I also had done my homework and understood what he was saying to me and what that data mean regarding the hull.

Ask them exactly how the hull and the core was repaired ask for independent opinions regarding the effectiveness of that reparation and measure hull humidity.

It is a pity. Sottovoce with exception of that is in great condition and it is a beautiful boat.

Regards

Paulo

 

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Re: Vor 70

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Telefonica had done the right thing and changed course to East. If Groupama does not the same is going to be caught by Abu Dhabi and Puma. If they change course maybe they can get the wind we see ahead and go away....if the weather map is correct....

Jesus what are they doing on Groupama!!! they could have a look at this thread. Like I had said, they maintained course .... Telefonica went away and the West group overtake them

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/racetracker/rdc.html

 

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Russians on the Caribbean

Russians racing a Russian race on the Caribbean.

 

[Mr W]

Film from Lidingö Runt

Hi Paulo,

Here´s a short film from the regatta Lidingö Runt, showing some nice boats (among them Elan 350, Aspect 40, X-35, Dufour 36e Performance (Ecolution), Finnflyer 36 (Black Pearl), Seaon 96, First 36.7 (Arken Zoo), Mannerberg 38, Xp 38 and more)!

//Mr W

 

[Mr W]

Re: Halberg Rassy 412: First images

The boat uses high tech sails and it looks to sail well. It seems that HR continues its progression towards faster and better sailing boats.

It´s interesting to see the HRs´ and Najads´ evolving to more normal sailboats than just big, heavy motorsailors. My mother is on Orust today to pick up her new HR 310, ordered with small bowsprit, Asymetric spinnaker and code 0. Should be interesting to go for a ride on that boat! She sent me some pictures the other day, from the shipyard.

//Mr W

 

[Mr W]

Salona 35

Some pictures of the new Salona 35 sailing:

Looks nice!

//Mr W

 

[PCP]

Re: Salona 35

Some pictures of the new Salona 35 sailing:

Looks nice!

//Mr W

Yes, it looks a very well balanced sailboat. It seems that they have so many orders for it that they are not even very interested in promoting the boat. No publicity on magazines and not even photos on their website

For seeing the boat people have to rely on out side sources like this thread or Blur

Thanks for posting that and the Lidingo Runt movie Nice boats there. I will try to have a look to see if we can have comparative real time performances.

Regards

Paulo

 

[PCP]

Re: Halberg Rassy 412: First images

It´s interesting to see the HRs´ and Najads´ evolving to more normal sailboats than just big, heavy motorsailors. My mother is on Orust today to pick up her new HR 310, ordered with small bowsprit, Asymetric spinnaker and code 0. Should be interesting to go for a ride on that boat! She sent me some pictures the other day, from the shipyard.

//Mr W

Hei, nice boat

Congratulations to your mother

Give us some impressions about the ride on that HR 310. I bet the boat even if not with performance cruiser performance will sail rather well.

I do really think that it is a very nice boat. Pity the price a bit too high for most of the sailors.

Regards

Paulo

 

[Mr W]

Re: Salona 35

For seeing the boat people have to rely on out side sources like this thread or Blur

Indeed!

Thanks for posting that and the Lidingo Runt movie Nice boats there. I will try to have a look to see if we can have comparative real time performances.

Lidingö runt 2012 offered very shifty and light conditions and I am not so sure the real time performances will be rightous to the boats. Might be useful though to compare boats in the same start. IIRC the wind was stronger during the early starts. What is really cool though is that a Nacra 20 was only 9 seconds behind the Marström M32 on elapsed time (same start group I think)!

//Mr W

 

[Mr W]

Re: Halberg Rassy 412: First images

Give us some impressions about the ride on that HR 310. I bet the boat even if not with performance cruiser performance will sail rather well.

I will! They will cruise from Orust, around the south of Sweden and then up to Stockholm during the next 6 weeks, but when they arrive I will try to get a ride.

//Mr W