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Prop slipping or cavitation at full rpm

699 views 11 replies 6 participants last post by  Minnewaska  
#1 ·
Please forgive me for jumping in with a question on my first post, but I’m having a tough time finding anything related to our issues online.

We’re in the process of purchasing a 50’ Taswell and during the seatrial it felt like the transmission was slipping at full rpm (3300). It felt like the prop would almost disengage for a short while and then re-engage. There was also a lot of vibration. Since the sea-trial, the owners had the transmission rebuilt and a new aquadrive installed and cutless bearing replaced. The 18” MaxProp was inspected and the shaft was checked for alignment. Now upon repeating the seatrial it seems the issue persists although the vibration is reduced. Hull speed was achieved at 2700rpm.

I’m wondering if this could be due to cavitation as the prop is perhaps not designed to run at full rpm. Also when doing the seatrial the captain gave it full power and didn’t slowly ramp up the speed. I’m wondering what factors we might be missing that could contribute to this slipage. Thank you
 
#2 ·
Boats don’t normally operate well at wide open throttle. You only do so for testing.

If this Captain was the one who ordinarily operated this boat, I’d be a little weary. No one would quickly throw the motor in WOT. That would be huge back pressure. However, it should operate normally and the engine should make its max rated rpm, at WOT. That’s why you run that test occasionally, but you would test every couple hundred rpm along the way too.

It seems there must have been a transmission problem, if they rebuilt it. Get the exact invoice/details of what that means. Was it all clutch plates, thrust bearings, etc, or just a repair. Needing a new aquadrive is very unusual, but they are a very nice set up.

Do maintenance records suggest good care?
 
#3 ·
Prop may need to be re-pitched. I'd consult with PYI. Engine should be able to reach max design RPM at WOT.

Was this a brand new Aqua drive install, or a new replacement. Was shaft length adjusted, new soft engine mounts etc. installed.

Trans rebuild would need details. Rebuilding the trans without replacing the clutch plate etc. never makes sense to me
 
#4 ·
Thanks so much for your insights
The broker was driving at the time.
The transmission had a full rebuild including damper plate and clutch plates.
The aquadrive was a new replacement. Shaft length was not adjusted and engine mounts were not changed. I guess I’m not suprised by the vibration at WOT but only that it seems so odd that there is something that is still causing the slipping.
The PO is unwilling to continue on what could be a wild goose chase, which to be fair I would be too. I’m just trying to get more clarity on whether this is a red flag. Hoping to hear back from PYI. Cheers
 
#9 ·
There are only a few possibilities. Drive train slipping, or prop cavitating. The drive train seems to have been given proper attention, so probably the prop. If its the prop it could be dirty. Barnacles and such destroying the flow at speed. But the more likely answer is it simply has a bit too much pitch. It can take a bit of trial and error to get the pitch correct. Someone in the past may have said "good enough".